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Re: Forest (nat...@sky.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:00:26 +0100 > From: Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> > To: leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: <ff1bf40d-2b48-4c72-8cae-d006f486e...@yahoo.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Bielsa said after the match that we’d created 10 clear chances to win the > game and that should have been enough. He’s right but how many times have we > heard him say that since he arrived? It’s becoming almost as frequent as > Simon Grayson saying ‘we put a shift in today’. > > Time and time again we got into goal scoring positions but due to the lack of > quality of the final ball, which seemed at times to gravitate towards a red > shirt, we failed to trouble the keeper. Jack Harrison was the main culprit. > Yes he got himself into some great positions and made some great runs but > time and time again he failed to find a white shirt. This got worse in the > second half when you almost expected him to mess up when played in by yet > another great cross field ball. Great things are expected of Harrison this > season but on this showing he is struggling to live up to the pre-season hype. > > Forest offered little in the first half and looked like they’d come for a > point by sitting deep and making it difficult for us. At times, our play was > laboured and we struggled to get the ball moving through midfield. The > passing around at the back was laboured and whilst this seems like taking > control away from home it looks like a team lacking ideas when we’re doing it > for 5 minutes at home. > > The main problem as I saw it was that Philips, Klich and Forshaw are all too > similar and none were making runs which meant the only options to move the > ball forward were long cross field balls to Harrison or down the right with > Hernandez and Dallas. Luckily both those options were good for us. > > Second half I thought Forest improved as they realised we were toothless and > they could actually hurt us. They were a bit unlucky for our goal as the > Forest man’s tackle ricocheted to Hernandez who placed it past the keeper. > > Forest then brought Ameobi on they give it a go. Ameobi was fast and direct > and we struggled to contain him. One of those runs resulted in the corner > from which they scored. Forest were only going to score from a set piece or > long throw but you sort of knew it was inevitable. From the NE upper it was > hard to see what happened for the goal so I’ll wait for someone who saw it on > the tv to tell me whether it was a defensive fuck up or unlucky. It just > looked like we failed to clear. > > We huffed and puffed at the end and Costa showed us he should have come on 29 > minutes earlier - bad mistake from Bielsa. Klich was out on his feet after 60 > minutes. Allioski replaced the ineffective Harrison but he looked ring rusty > and failed to make an impact. Surely Jack Clarke on the left wing would have > been the better option ? What’s the point of having him back on loan ? > > Overall, we should have won, but we didn’t and we need to be better if we’re > expecting promotion this season. Forest were a big physical team that made it > hard for us. They offered little but in a way they did a job on us. > > Kiko - 5. Had literally nothing to do other than pick the ball out of the > back of the net. His kicking was dodgy today. > > Dallas - 8. I thought he was arguably our best player today. His forward > running is direct and opens things up. I thought he also defended well. > > Douglas - 6. Did ok, got forward first half and nearly got himself in a goal > scoring position only to be denied by a great Forest tackle. Tired second > half. > > White - 7. Generally sound but he had one or 2 moments where he came off 2nd > best. Still decent for a new centre back. think he reads the game well. > > Cooper - 8. I thought he defended very well and some of his cross field balls > were very effective. His challenge in the 2nd half when Forest were attacking > was top drawer. Took ball and man. Great stuff. > > Phillips - 6. Didn’t do anything wrong. Some great passes and some duff > passes into space. Always available and always working hard but at times he’s > so pedestrian it’s untrue. There’s no way this lad is a premiership > footballer but he’s doing ok. > > Forshaw - 7. I thought he was our best midfielder today. Never spectacular > but there was a spell in the 2nd half where he just kept us together through > harrying and winning the ball. Ultimately I think him , Philips and Klich are > too similar to play together at home (maybe away is better). > > Klich - 4. I’m worried about Klich. There’s no doubts that he is not the same > player we saw scoring all those goals in the first half of last season. We > saw a steady decline last season and this seems to have continued in the > first 2 games. Watching him today he’s playing almost as a 2nd striker and > plays as advanced as Bamford. He rarely comes deep for the ball like he used > to. Have us legs gone a bit ? He was out on his feet 2nd half, almost > dragging his legs around the pitch and I was really surprised that Bielsa > left him on that long. Worrying. > > Hernandez - 7. Not himself today despite scoring a goal and looking > threatening at times in the right in the first half. I don’t like him playing > on the right wing and I’d rather he was moved central leaving the wings for > Clarke and Costa. His passing as always was inconsistent. > > Harrison - 4. I’ve already wrote about him. I’m sure he’ll have other days > when he gets into the positions he did today where he either scores or > assists but today just wasn’t his day. > > Bamford - 6. Worked tirelessly and had 2 great chances to score. He went > close with both , one hit the bar and the other a yard wide after he’d > excellently controlled and then lobbed the keeper. I’m not sure this role > suits him as he’s asked to do a lot of running and battling. That’s not his > game. What happened to 2 strikers up front ? Why do we seem to accept playing > one lone striker at home ? Doesn’t make sense to me. Play Eddie alongside him. > > Subs : > > Allioski - struggled to make an impact. > > Costa - looked threatening. Should start next game. > > Bielsa - I thought he got it wrong today - tactics and subs. > > Undefeated. Time for wine. > > Jim Moran - I was in Scabby Taps after the game and saw someone who looked > like your Twitter profile crossing the road. Was it you ? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:13:31 +0100 > From: <ni...@sykesonline.com> > To: "'Leeds List'" <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > Subject: Re: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: <003501d54faf$b42fcbc0$1c8f6340$@sykesonline.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Nice summation and I pretty much agree with it all. > > The bottom line is that we have continued to play pretty much exactly like we > did for the second half of last season. Which shouldn't be a surprise, given > that the team hasn't changed a jot. > > Nigel > (the Dublin one) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> On Behalf Of Richard walker > via Leedslist > Sent: 10 August 2019 20:00 > To: leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: [LU] Forest > > Bielsa said after the match that we’d created 10 clear chances to win the > game and that should have been enough. He’s right but how many times have we > heard him say that since he arrived? It’s becoming almost as frequent as > Simon Grayson saying ‘we put a shift in today’. > > Time and time again we got into goal scoring positions but due to the lack of > quality of the final ball, which seemed at times to gravitate towards a red > shirt, we failed to trouble the keeper. Jack Harrison was the main culprit. > Yes he got himself into some great positions and made some great runs but > time and time again he failed to find a white shirt. This got worse in the > second half when you almost expected him to mess up when played in by yet > another great cross field ball. Great things are expected of Harrison this > season but on this showing he is struggling to live up to the pre-season hype. > > Forest offered little in the first half and looked like they’d come for a > point by sitting deep and making it difficult for us. At times, our play was > laboured and we struggled to get the ball moving through midfield. The > passing around at the back was laboured and whilst this seems like taking > control away from home it looks like a team lacking ideas when we’re doing it > for 5 minutes at home. > > The main problem as I saw it was that Philips, Klich and Forshaw are all too > similar and none were making runs which meant the only options to move the > ball forward were long cross field balls to Harrison or down the right with > Hernandez and Dallas. Luckily both those options were good for us. > > Second half I thought Forest improved as they realised we were toothless and > they could actually hurt us. They were a bit unlucky for our goal as the > Forest man’s tackle ricocheted to Hernandez who placed it past the keeper. > > Forest then brought Ameobi on they give it a go. Ameobi was fast and direct > and we struggled to contain him. One of those runs resulted in the corner > from which they scored. Forest were only going to score from a set piece or > long throw but you sort of knew it was inevitable. From the NE upper it was > hard to see what happened for the goal so I’ll wait for someone who saw it on > the tv to tell me whether it was a defensive fuck up or unlucky. It just > looked like we failed to clear. > > We huffed and puffed at the end and Costa showed us he should have come on 29 > minutes earlier - bad mistake from Bielsa. Klich was out on his feet after 60 > minutes. Allioski replaced the ineffective Harrison but he looked ring rusty > and failed to make an impact. Surely Jack Clarke on the left wing would have > been the better option ? What’s the point of having him back on loan ? > > Overall, we should have won, but we didn’t and we need to be better if we’re > expecting promotion this season. Forest were a big physical team that made it > hard for us. They offered little but in a way they did a job on us. > > Kiko - 5. Had literally nothing to do other than pick the ball out of the > back of the net. His kicking was dodgy today. > > Dallas - 8. I thought he was arguably our best player today. His forward > running is direct and opens things up. I thought he also defended well. > > Douglas - 6. Did ok, got forward first half and nearly got himself in a goal > scoring position only to be denied by a great Forest tackle. Tired second > half. > > White - 7. Generally sound but he had one or 2 moments where he came off 2nd > best. Still decent for a new centre back. think he reads the game well. > > Cooper - 8. I thought he defended very well and some of his cross field balls > were very effective. His challenge in the 2nd half when Forest were attacking > was top drawer. Took ball and man. Great stuff. > > Phillips - 6. Didn’t do anything wrong. Some great passes and some duff > passes into space. Always available and always working hard but at times he’s > so pedestrian it’s untrue. There’s no way this lad is a premiership > footballer but he’s doing ok. > > Forshaw - 7. I thought he was our best midfielder today. Never spectacular > but there was a spell in the 2nd half where he just kept us together through > harrying and winning the ball. Ultimately I think him , Philips and Klich are > too similar to play together at home (maybe away is better). > > Klich - 4. I’m worried about Klich. There’s no doubts that he is not the same > player we saw scoring all those goals in the first half of last season. We > saw a steady decline last season and this seems to have continued in the > first 2 games. Watching him today he’s playing almost as a 2nd striker and > plays as advanced as Bamford. He rarely comes deep for the ball like he used > to. Have us legs gone a bit ? He was out on his feet 2nd half, almost > dragging his legs around the pitch and I was really surprised that Bielsa > left him on that long. Worrying. > > Hernandez - 7. Not himself today despite scoring a goal and looking > threatening at times in the right in the first half. I don’t like him playing > on the right wing and I’d rather he was moved central leaving the wings for > Clarke and Costa. His passing as always was inconsistent. > > Harrison - 4. I’ve already wrote about him. I’m sure he’ll have other days > when he gets into the positions he did today where he either scores or > assists but today just wasn’t his day. > > Bamford - 6. Worked tirelessly and had 2 great chances to score. He went > close with both , one hit the bar and the other a yard wide after he’d > excellently controlled and then lobbed the keeper. I’m not sure this role > suits him as he’s asked to do a lot of running and battling. That’s not his > game. What happened to 2 strikers up front ? Why do we seem to accept playing > one lone striker at home ? Doesn’t make sense to me. Play Eddie alongside him. > > Subs : > > Allioski - struggled to make an impact. > > Costa - looked threatening. Should start next game. > > Bielsa - I thought he got it wrong today - tactics and subs. > > Undefeated. Time for wine. > > Jim Moran - I was in Scabby Taps after the game and saw someone who looked > like your Twitter profile crossing the road. Was it you ? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:42:26 +0100 > From: Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> > To: Guy Bonello <guybone...@gmail.com> > Cc: leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>, Roger Goodair > <rmg1...@blueyonder.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [LU] The tale of the two list Richard's > Message-ID: <76ddae7a-ce33-4b53-b0e6-aaf9484d9...@yahoo.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Good stuff , cheers. > > >> On 9 Aug 2019, at 18:58, Guy Bonello <guybone...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> not really. £26m sales does not mean £26m profit due to player amortisation >> >> have a read of this >> >> http://www.mikethornton.xyz/twitter-ramblings-july-2019/?fbclid=IwAR0fXdoFrUQJ8L4Zgx90zGvtDNEbIfkaAVVyOxU0EdvwElFkSrTNT2UgK3U >> >>> On Fri, 9 Aug 2019 at 17:45, Richard Walker via Leedslist >>> <leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: >>> Not sure about that. I am incredibly optimistic about the upcoming season >>> especially after Bristol. Saturday will tell us a bit more. >>> However, I really think we could be struggling if we get anything like the >>> injuries we had last year or White turns out to be pale imitation of >>> Pontus. >>> I know it's a Friday night and we're all going to the pub but could someone >>> post details of the article regarding FFP or summarise how we can sell 28 >>> million pounds of players and not spend a penny and be in and danger of not >>> adhering to the FFP rules. Sounds ridiculous to me even with Kiko on £35k >>> per week. >>> If the wages total for the 32 professionals was 1 million per week >>> (unlikely) then transfers themselves would pay for 75% of the season and >>> that's not including gate receipts, sponsorship etc >>> or is that not how it works ? >>> >>> >>> On Friday, 9 August 2019, 15:17:14 BST, Roger Goodair via Leedslist >>> <leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: >>> >>> Rich W - glass always half empty, if not bordering on completely empty >>> from time to time. >>> Rich N - glass always full, never mind half full. >>> Makes for interesting reading, but surely reality is somewhere between >>> the two viewpoints? >>> Cheers - Rogerre >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >>> >>> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >>> >>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >>> >>> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:46:38 +0100 > From: Jim Moran <j...@jimmoran.co.uk> > To: Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org > Subject: Re: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: > <cab8ml+6pb_57ami3sigzg49zgqc7v_mcjzatdodiqhunonk...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Probably was me. I went for a pint in The Grove to escape a shower. You > can’t miss a lanky twat like me. :) > > On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 20:00, Richard walker via Leedslist < > leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: > >> Bielsa said after the match that we’d created 10 clear chances to win the >> game and that should have been enough. He’s right but how many times have >> we heard him say that since he arrived? It’s becoming almost as frequent as >> Simon Grayson saying ‘we put a shift in today’. >> >> Time and time again we got into goal scoring positions but due to the lack >> of quality of the final ball, which seemed at times to gravitate towards a >> red shirt, we failed to trouble the keeper. Jack Harrison was the main >> culprit. Yes he got himself into some great positions and made some great >> runs but time and time again he failed to find a white shirt. This got >> worse in the second half when you almost expected him to mess up when >> played in by yet another great cross field ball. Great things are expected >> of Harrison this season but on this showing he is struggling to live up to >> the pre-season hype. >> >> Forest offered little in the first half and looked like they’d come for a >> point by sitting deep and making it difficult for us. At times, our play >> was laboured and we struggled to get the ball moving through midfield. The >> passing around at the back was laboured and whilst this seems like taking >> control away from home it looks like a team lacking ideas when we’re doing >> it for 5 minutes at home. >> >> The main problem as I saw it was that Philips, Klich and Forshaw are all >> too similar and none were making runs which meant the only options to move >> the ball forward were long cross field balls to Harrison or down the right >> with Hernandez and Dallas. Luckily both those options were good for us. >> >> Second half I thought Forest improved as they realised we were toothless >> and they could actually hurt us. They were a bit unlucky for our goal as >> the Forest man’s tackle ricocheted to Hernandez who placed it past the >> keeper. >> >> Forest then brought Ameobi on they give it a go. Ameobi was fast and >> direct and we struggled to contain him. One of those runs resulted in the >> corner from which they scored. Forest were only going to score from a set >> piece or long throw but you sort of knew it was inevitable. From the NE >> upper it was hard to see what happened for the goal so I’ll wait for >> someone who saw it on the tv to tell me whether it was a defensive fuck up >> or unlucky. It just looked like we failed to clear. >> >> We huffed and puffed at the end and Costa showed us he should have come on >> 29 minutes earlier - bad mistake from Bielsa. Klich was out on his feet >> after 60 minutes. Allioski replaced the ineffective Harrison but he looked >> ring rusty and failed to make an impact. Surely Jack Clarke on the left >> wing would have been the better option ? What’s the point of having him >> back on loan ? >> >> Overall, we should have won, but we didn’t and we need to be better if >> we’re expecting promotion this season. Forest were a big physical team that >> made it hard for us. They offered little but in a way they did a job on us. >> >> Kiko - 5. Had literally nothing to do other than pick the ball out of the >> back of the net. His kicking was dodgy today. >> >> Dallas - 8. I thought he was arguably our best player today. His forward >> running is direct and opens things up. I thought he also defended well. >> >> Douglas - 6. Did ok, got forward first half and nearly got himself in a >> goal scoring position only to be denied by a great Forest tackle. Tired >> second half. >> >> White - 7. Generally sound but he had one or 2 moments where he came off >> 2nd best. Still decent for a new centre back. think he reads the game well. >> >> Cooper - 8. I thought he defended very well and some of his cross field >> balls were very effective. His challenge in the 2nd half when Forest were >> attacking was top drawer. Took ball and man. Great stuff. >> >> Phillips - 6. Didn’t do anything wrong. Some great passes and some duff >> passes into space. Always available and always working hard but at times >> he’s so pedestrian it’s untrue. There’s no way this lad is a premiership >> footballer but he’s doing ok. >> >> Forshaw - 7. I thought he was our best midfielder today. Never spectacular >> but there was a spell in the 2nd half where he just kept us together >> through harrying and winning the ball. Ultimately I think him , Philips and >> Klich are too similar to play together at home (maybe away is better). >> >> Klich - 4. I’m worried about Klich. There’s no doubts that he is not the >> same player we saw scoring all those goals in the first half of last >> season. We saw a steady decline last season and this seems to have >> continued in the first 2 games. Watching him today he’s playing almost as a >> 2nd striker and plays as advanced as Bamford. He rarely comes deep for the >> ball like he used to. Have us legs gone a bit ? He was out on his feet 2nd >> half, almost dragging his legs around the pitch and I was really surprised >> that Bielsa left him on that long. Worrying. >> >> Hernandez - 7. Not himself today despite scoring a goal and looking >> threatening at times in the right in the first half. I don’t like him >> playing on the right wing and I’d rather he was moved central leaving the >> wings for Clarke and Costa. His passing as always was inconsistent. >> >> Harrison - 4. I’ve already wrote about him. I’m sure he’ll have other days >> when he gets into the positions he did today where he either scores or >> assists but today just wasn’t his day. >> >> Bamford - 6. Worked tirelessly and had 2 great chances to score. He went >> close with both , one hit the bar and the other a yard wide after he’d >> excellently controlled and then lobbed the keeper. I’m not sure this role >> suits him as he’s asked to do a lot of running and battling. That’s not his >> game. What happened to 2 strikers up front ? Why do we seem to accept >> playing one lone striker at home ? Doesn’t make sense to me. Play Eddie >> alongside him. >> >> Subs : >> >> Allioski - struggled to make an impact. >> >> Costa - looked threatening. Should start next game. >> >> Bielsa - I thought he got it wrong today - tactics and subs. >> >> Undefeated. Time for wine. >> >> Jim Moran - I was in Scabby Taps after the game and saw someone who looked >> like your Twitter profile crossing the road. Was it you ? >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 20:25:32 +0000 (UTC) > From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> > To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > Subject: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: <896088127.5064656.1565468732...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Well it was great to be back at Elland Road - hope I never lose that buzz > This was 2points lost and so reminiscent of last season. Total domination > pretty much fro start yo finish but not enough goals to show for it > Clearly they came for a point ,time wasting from the off - kicking the ball > away on at least 3 occasions in the first half but the ref did nothing > We had 10 or so corners and umpteen free kicks into the box with no end > product > Is Bsmford poor or just unlucky..? First chance he took an extra touch , > second he scuffed onto the bar, 3rd shot just wide and 4th did everything > right but chipped just wide - cannot fault his effort but at least one > should, and needed to go in > We did get the breakthrough when the ball took a richocet to Pablo and he > finished in style- this stat a time when we were in total control and had > them gor the taking but failed to get the second ee needed > They made 3 subs , each player taller than the one who went off, so it was no > su9when they nearly scored from a corner and then fid so the next time 1 shot > one goal (albeit a scramble after a bit of pinball) > We had 3 penalty shouts - a definite kick on Dallas and 2 pushes on Costa but > rec was unmoved > Big mistake by Bielsa taking off Harrison for Alioski - should have been > Clarke or Costa > Agree with Rich W Forshaw & Klich are not a good combination > Ultimately same result as last season > We will play worse and have less of the game that this and win but a > disappointing result > Need to beat Wigsn > Dave > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 23:21:45 +0000 (UTC) > From: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> > To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>, "nat...@sky.com" > <nat...@sky.com> > Subject: Re: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: <862938438.3933725.1565479305...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Pretty sure Klich passed the ball to Hernandez for the goal (no ricochet?). I > disagree about Harrison. He looks far more direct and looks a threat. > Nick > On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 04:25:49 PM EDT, nat...@sky.com > <nat...@sky.com> wrote: > > Well it was great to be back at Elland Road - hope I never lose that buzz > This was 2points lost and so reminiscent of last season. Total domination > pretty much fro start yo finish but not enough goals to show for it > Clearly they came for a point ,time wasting from the off - kicking the ball > away on at least 3 occasions in the first half but the ref did nothing > We had 10 or so corners and umpteen free kicks into the box with no end > product > Is Bsmford poor or just unlucky..? First chance he took an extra touch , > second he scuffed onto the bar, 3rd shot just wide and 4th did everything > right but chipped just wide - cannot fault his effort but at least one > should, and needed to go in > We did get the breakthrough when the ball took a richocet to Pablo and he > finished in style- this stat a time when we were in total control and had > them gor the taking but failed to get the second ee needed > They made 3 subs , each player taller than the one who went off, so it was no > su9when they nearly scored from a corner and then fid so the next time 1 shot > one goal (albeit a scramble after a bit of pinball) > We had 3 penalty shouts - a definite kick on Dallas and 2 pushes on Costa but > rec was unmoved > Big mistake by Bielsa taking off Harrison for Alioski - should have been > Clarke or Costa > Agree with Rich W Forshaw & Klich are not a good combination > Ultimately same result as last season > We will play worse and have less of the game that this and win but a > disappointing result > Need to beat Wigsn > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 23:22:44 +0000 (UTC) > From: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> > To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>, "nat...@sky.com" > <nat...@sky.com> > Subject: Re: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: <34490831.3924434.1565479364...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Dave, > do we really "need" to beat anyone yet? > Nick > On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 04:25:49 PM EDT, nat...@sky.com > <nat...@sky.com> wrote: > > Well it was great to be back at Elland Road - hope I never lose that buzz > This was 2points lost and so reminiscent of last season. Total domination > pretty much fro start yo finish but not enough goals to show for it > Clearly they came for a point ,time wasting from the off - kicking the ball > away on at least 3 occasions in the first half but the ref did nothing > We had 10 or so corners and umpteen free kicks into the box with no end > product > Is Bsmford poor or just unlucky..? First chance he took an extra touch , > second he scuffed onto the bar, 3rd shot just wide and 4th did everything > right but chipped just wide - cannot fault his effort but at least one > should, and needed to go in > We did get the breakthrough when the ball took a richocet to Pablo and he > finished in style- this stat a time when we were in total control and had > them gor the taking but failed to get the second ee needed > They made 3 subs , each player taller than the one who went off, so it was no > su9when they nearly scored from a corner and then fid so the next time 1 shot > one goal (albeit a scramble after a bit of pinball) > We had 3 penalty shouts - a definite kick on Dallas and 2 pushes on Costa but > rec was unmoved > Big mistake by Bielsa taking off Harrison for Alioski - should have been > Clarke or Costa > Agree with Rich W Forshaw & Klich are not a good combination > Ultimately same result as last season > We will play worse and have less of the game that this and win but a > disappointing result > Need to beat Wigsn > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:16:15 +0100 > From: Richard walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> > To: Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com> > Cc: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > Subject: Re: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: <3b8cfb7a-8c2d-48f6-96e3-eff5fad9a...@yahoo.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Real weird one this. From the NE Upper it looked like Klich was tackled and > as a result the ball ricocheted forward towards Pablo who scored. > Dave (from the Kop) also wrote the same thing however, when I watched it on > tv it looks like Klich plays the pass intentionally without any tackle. > > I’m tempted to believe the tackle was made and what Dave and me saw was > correct and that the tv angle doesn’t catch it. > >> On 11 Aug 2019, at 00:21, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist >> <leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: >> >> Pretty sure Klich passed the ball to Hernandez for the goal (no ricochet?). >> I disagree about Harrison. He looks far more direct and looks a threat. >> Nick >> On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 04:25:49 PM EDT, nat...@sky.com >> <nat...@sky.com> wrote: >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:13:38 +0100 > From: Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> > To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > Subject: Re: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: <6fa03b3c-3968-4e19-a7de-2fc3dbb0b...@6haroldplace.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Just on that one, I couldn’t see it clearly either in real time, looking at > the reply doesn’t help much, but I think Klich just knocks it through and the > defender catches Klich - based mostly on watching how Klich pulls his foot > away immediately after the challenge - he was certainly clipped. > > Leaving the game I thought that Costa had a clearer shout for a penalty at > the end, but bloody hell Dallas’s was nailed on, the guy lumped him. The > linesman was directly opposite. No idea how he hasn’t seen that. > > As for their goal. How many defenders (not marking anyone) did the first ball > pass by…then one of their guys miscues, under pressure from Cassillas, into > the goalscorer's chest who somehow just flicks it with his boot and it screws > off into the corner. We had 5 or 6 men round this. Never mind blaming the > keeper - who I’m not a massive fan of - but defenders have to defend. > > I thought Bamford was unlucky. All I’m going to say at the moment is that no > one can convince me that Roofe would have been any more likely to score. > > > >> On 11 Aug 2019, at 09:16, Richard walker via Leedslist >> <leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: >> >> Real weird one this. From the NE Upper it looked like Klich was tackled and >> as a result the ball ricocheted forward towards Pablo who scored. >> Dave (from the Kop) also wrote the same thing however, when I watched it on >> tv it looks like Klich plays the pass intentionally without any tackle. >> >> I’m tempted to believe the tackle was made and what Dave and me saw was >> correct and that the tv angle doesn’t catch it. >> >>> On 11 Aug 2019, at 00:21, Nicholas Armit via Leedslist >>> <leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote: >>> >>> Pretty sure Klich passed the ball to Hernandez for the goal (no ricochet?). >>> I disagree about Harrison. He looks far more direct and looks a threat. >>> Nick >>> On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 04:25:49 PM EDT, nat...@sky.com >>> <nat...@sky.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:12:47 +0000 (UTC) > From: "nat...@sky.com" <nat...@sky.com> > To: Leeds List <leedslist@gn.apc.org>, Nicholas Armit > <arm...@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [LU] Forest > Message-ID: <1152551389.5200992.1565518367...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Yes now I have seen on TV it was a good pass by klich. Assume Harrison > 'disagreement ' is not with me .? I just said MB brought on the wrong person > to replace him - I too though Harrison was good and was involved in pretty > much everything we did , I reckon he had more touches than anyone > Yes -"need to beat wigan" is a bit of hyperbole on my part, just a reaction > to losing 2 points yesterday (albeit matching last season result) and we did > win last time at Wigan-plus I am actually going to the game so I need us to > win > Dave > > On Sunday, 11 August 2019, 00:21:49 GMT+1, Nicholas Armit > <arm...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Pretty sure Klich passed the ball to Hernandez for the goal (no ricochet?). > I disagree about Harrison. He looks far more direct and looks a threat. > Nick > On Saturday, August 10, 2019, 04:25:49 PM EDT, nat...@sky.com > <nat...@sky.com> wrote: > > Well it was great to be back at Elland Road - hope I never lose that buzz > This was 2points lost and so reminiscent of last season. Total domination > pretty much fro start yo finish but not enough goals to show for it > Clearly they came for a point ,time wasting from the off - kicking the ball > away on at least 3 occasions in the first half but the ref did nothing > We had 10 or so corners and umpteen free kicks into the box with no end > product > Is Bsmford poor or just unlucky..? First chance he took an extra touch , > second he scuffed onto the bar, 3rd shot just wide and 4th did everything > right but chipped just wide - cannot fault his effort but at least one > should, and needed to go in > We did get the breakthrough when the ball took a richocet to Pablo and he > finished in style- this stat a time when we were in total control and had > them gor the taking but failed to get the second ee needed > They made 3 subs , each player taller than the one who went off, so it was no > su9when they nearly scored from a corner and then fid so the next time 1 shot > one goal (albeit a scramble after a bit of pinball) > We had 3 penalty shouts - a definite kick on Dallas and 2 pushes on Costa but > rec was unmoved > Big mistake by Bielsa taking off Harrison for Alioski - should have been > Clarke or Costa > Agree with Rich W Forshaw & Klich are not a good combination > Ultimately same result as last season > We will play worse and have less of the game that this and win but a > disappointing result > Need to beat Wigsn > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Leedslist Digest, Vol 110, Issue 11 > ****************************************** _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ RIP Jimmy WAC-COE
