At the end of the day, we've all seen false dawns so many times that few of us can still believe the sun will ever actually properly rise. I'm truly amazed at anyone who can remain optimistic. When seeing such blind faith on e.g. Facebook groups, I always assume that they're young fellas, who haven't had the repeated beat-downs we older types have, but no... often (as on here), they are just guys who seem to be able to find an optimistic outlook that eludes me, for one. Fair play to them. They probably enjoy life much more...
Nigel (the pessimistic Dublin one) -----Original Message----- From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> On Behalf Of Matt Anderson Sent: 16 January 2020 09:25 To: Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) <kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk> Cc: Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org) <leedslist@gn.apc.org> Subject: Re: [LU] EXTERNAL: Re: Goals Don’t forget the turn of the millennium. Top of the league didn’t win again till March I think Sent from my iPhone > On 16 Jan 2020, at 09:05, Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) <kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk> > wrote: > > Sorry to be a Doom Monger, but we’ve got more ‘previous’ than just last > season of course. > > 2016-17: We somehow managed to go from being outside contenders for > automatic, to missing out on the play-offs with a poor run at the death. > > 2009-10 in league one: We were pissing it until New Year, when a run of 3 > wins, 6 draws and 7 defeats saw us drop from 1st to 4th. Managed to recover > and win 5 out of last 7 to scrape up by the skin of our teeth. > > That’s forgetting the miserable play-off record. > > No wonder there is pessimism not far from the surface ☹ > > KOT. > > > From: Ted [mailto:tedhea...@gmail.com] > Sent: 15 January 2020 18:39 > To: John Lee <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: Mark <wiscole...@hotmail.com>; Leeds List (leedslist@gn.apc.org) > <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) <kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk> > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [LU] Goals > > Got to agree John - coming out the ground last Saturday, all I could hear was > people saying "it's happening again"! > > I really enjoyed last season because the way we played under Bielsa was a > nice surprise. This season - people's expectations have been too high and > we/I feel it's now or never. I'm a nervous fu**ing wreck! > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2020, 19:23 John Lee via Leedslist, > <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> wrote: > Happy to back you up Mark ;-) Your reply made me laugh. > > I also laughed at Richard’s ‘if we play as well in the second half of the > season as we did the first we’ll go up’. Absolutely true, but the recent > signs are we’re gonna stuff it up again. We no longer have Roofe - that is > one critical negative variable. It’s starting to feel like groundhog day for > most of us. > > Hey ho. > > > >> On 15 Jan 2020, at 13:51, Mark >> <wiscole...@hotmail.com<mailto:wiscole...@hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >> First off, I didn't think my OP ignored facts. I appreciate Bruv Lee >> understanding my perspective and concerns. >> >> I've been on this list since....I don't know, around 1995 and Richard is the >> only person I've come across who takes the joy and interest out of >> contributing to the chatter. And there have been some characters and "wars" >> along the way. I always have a mental timer running to see how long until he >> posts a snide, snippy, arrogant, elitist, more knowledgeable than you >> remark. I'm glad to read that as usual, he meets my low expectations. >> >> tick, tock.... >> >> Cheers >> >> Cheers >> Mark >> >> >> From: Richard Naef >> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co. >> uk>> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:49 PM >> To: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk> >> <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>> >> Cc: Mark <wiscole...@hotmail.com<mailto:wiscole...@hotmail.com>>; >> Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) >> <kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk<mailto:kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk>>; Leeds List >> (leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>) >> <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> >> Subject: RE: [LU] Goals >> >> Sense of proportion, the ridiculous statements of the OP ignored the facts. >> This season is not the same as last, so many variables are different. The >> first half of the season is a much better indication of this team than last >> season. If we perform as well in the 2nd half as we did in the first we'll >> almost certainly get promoted. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk> >> <bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:bruvvalee...@yahoo.co.uk>> >> Sent: 14 January 2020 23:41 >> To: Richard Naef >> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co. >> uk>> >> Cc: Mark <wiscole...@hotmail.com<mailto:wiscole...@hotmail.com>>; >> Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) >> <kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk<mailto:kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk>>; Leeds List >> (leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>) >> <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> >> Subject: Re: [LU] Goals >> >> Please refer to 2018/2019 season Richard - we are not doomed, but we may be >> doomed to repeat the outcome if we’re not careful! >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 14 Jan 2020, at 22:30, Richard Naef >>> <rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk<mailto:rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> weve the 2nd table, 3rd highest scorers, 2nd best goal difference, oh hang >>> on, forget that we're doomed....... >>> >>> Sent from my Mobile. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Leedslist >>> <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>> >>> on behalf of Mark >>> <wiscole...@hotmail.com<mailto:wiscole...@hotmail.com>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:57:29 PM >>> To: Kevin Lewis (UK SBS) >>> <kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk<mailto:kevin.le...@uksbs.co.uk>>; Leeds >>> List (leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>) >>> <leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> >>> Subject: [LU] Goals >>> >>> At this point Bielsa and co. need to acquire a scorer or two from >>> somewhere. We carry far too many players who have limited to non-existant >>> scoring capabilities, basically everyone but Bamford, Harrison and >>> Hernandez. For a team that has so much possession and has so many corners >>> for Ayling, White, Cooper, Dallas, Costa, Klich, Alioski, Douglas, etc to >>> have contributed so few goals is a crime. Watching their feeble efforts on >>> goal is many times very embarrassing. >>> It's a miracle what Bielsa has been able to accomplish with such a limited >>> bunch of average players but Leeds cannot afford another season that >>> collapses into itself. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: >>> https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email >>> leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc >>> .org> >>> >>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >>> >>> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: >>> https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> To unsubscribe, email >>> leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc >>> .org> >>> >>> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >>> >>> RIP Jimmy WAC-COE >> > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email > leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.o > rg> > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > RIP Jimmy WAC-COE > > ____________________________________________________________ > UK Shared Business Services Ltd. 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