If in doubt, blame the grass. :-) Sent from my iPad
> On 6 Feb 2021, at 11:49, Mark Tuffey <wiscole...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I believe the pitch caused the first goal. Harrison slipped making a cross > field pass that didn’t reach and was then intercepted and off Everton went. > > Cheers > Mark > > ________________________________ > From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Nicholas Armit > via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> > Sent: Friday, February 5, 2021 5:00 PM > To: Leeds leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org>; Nick <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [LU] Everton > > Maybe I am in a minority but I think the first is Phillip's fault. You don't > point at another player to take responsibility as he did to Cooper. It was > his player who scored. > Nick > On Friday, February 5, 2021, 05:13:31 PM EST, Nick > <n...@6haroldplace.co.uk> wrote: > > agree with many of the sage comments since the game…”being happy after a > defeat…?” who’d have thought it… > > But just thought I’d add that the winger who got in the cross for their first > goal did a first rate job. (That our defence was collectively yonderly, > shouldn't detract from that…) > > Nick > >> On 4 Feb 2021, at 18:36, MATTHEW GAYNOR via Leedslist <leedslist@gn.apc.org> >> wrote: >> >> >> I imagine after the first half yesterday which was just chaos, the reaction >> in the dressing rooms was; >> >> Ancelotti - We cant go on like this - we need to get a grip >> Bielsa - More More More >> >> And as ever Bielsa was correct - and Everton couldnt keep going at the same >> intensity - and we took control. >> >> I think Strujk was probably most at fault for the first goal - it looked >> like he could have got across to the cross - but we should remember that >> he's basically 5th choice centre-back (as Bielsa thinks Berardi plays there) >> - and is playing most weeks this season. So the defence isnt great but >> there is a good reason why. I think Cooper has actually been fine in the >> circumstances. >> >> Costa wasnt good but no worse than Pablo for example - whose loss of >> possession nearly cost us a goal. Both suffering from lack of game time. >> Roberts always looks like he might make something happen - but never >> actually does. >> >> Raphinha is fantastic - doubtful whether he'd be fit and he was going end to >> end constantly. Most talented player since Kewell and with a better workrate >> >> Matt >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: t...@3lv.uk <mailto:t...@3lv.uk> >> To: "leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>" >> <leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>> >> Sent: Thursday, 4 Feb, 21 At 16:06 >> Subject: Re: [LU] Everton >> Pretty much exactly how I saw it Rich. For me, the following are all on my >> "Should be sold or made into >> a squad player in the Summer" list (And no, I'm not being unnecessarily >> negative just because we lost, just realistic!): >> Alioski. We're crying out for a left back, Squad. >> Cooper. We're now playing beyond his limits, Sell. >> Struyk. Young lad, I like him, just needs some experience. Keep, good back >> up. >> Costa. Waste of space. Sell. >> Pablo. Allow him his swansong at his home club in the Summer, with our >> eternal gratitude! >> Isn't it weird how pre Leicester and Everton I'd have settled for 3 points >> but, having beaten Leicester, I'm disappointed!!! We owe Palace, would like >> to beat them (Zaha a doubt for them too). Raphinia is my new favourite >> player, think he's precisely the level of player we need to attract. >> I still hate losing but rapidly get it in to context of where we are and >> where we've been, was definitely the best Everton have played for a while >> too. >> StigOfTheOnTheUpDump >> >> On 2021-02-04 14:59, Richard Walker via Leedslist wrote: >> It's not often I come away from a home defeat feeling pretty positive. >> For me, the 2nd half was one of the best so far and there's been some >> good ones thsi season. We ran a really impressive Everton team ragged >> and at times they just couldn't get out of their half. Their keeper >> did well and we fluffed a few half chances. The pitch for me was a >> worry in the first half but overall you have to say it was an >> improvement on the field that was dug up because it did allow us to >> play at tempo. The flip side of that was Everton were also allowed to >> play at tempo in the first half and they more than matched us. I >> didn't really rate them at Goodison but last night I thought they >> looked impressive in the first half and although I think 2-0 at >> half-time flattered them a bit, they showed that they had real pace >> and skill on the ball. >> The only real disapointement for me were the goals and the defending. >> We can say that we're happy with the squad but are we ? We've got a >> central defender effectively out for the season and another who is >> injury prone so we're reliant on League One Liam and the Ripper (God, >> he does look like Sutcliffe in his prime), who has played around 10 >> first team games in his life. I heard Luke Ayling manfully owning up >> for allowing the cross for the first goal. Yes Luke, but there were 4 >> white shirts stood stroking their cocks whilst Sigurrson strolled >> through unmarked to poke home. Philips lost him in midfield, Ripper >> stood ball watching and I've no idea what LO Liam was doing but >> Philips almost pushed him into position. A complete shambles. >> The 2nd was a corner - what a surprise. Bielsa said it's common when >> you get a near post flick on that someone has the opportunity to get >> onto it at the back post. Really !? Why not fucking do some thing >> about it then ? It's basic defending of set pieces and we've been >> failing most of the season. We get praised for our attacking play but >> we're defending like a League One team. I just don't see the logic >> behind trying to get someone in the door in Jan. Even someone like >> Kyle Bartlett or Pontus would be a vast improvement to what we have >> now. They're not for the future but we might just be able to defend >> games better. >> Anyway, on to the positives, and there were many. I think Raphinha is >> a revelation and I actually don't think he's in top gear yet. I think >> he's much more than a winger, maybe a no 10 or even a striker cos he's >> got a really eye for goal and his passing is generally v.good. The >> link up and hold play in and around the box was spectacular and >> Everton were chasing shadows in one 10 minute period. It was fantastic >> to watch. When our attack did break down everyone was chasing and >> winning it back. Ayling's contribution down the right wing was immense >> and it was good to see Bamford actually hold the ball up well and >> contribute at times. Unfortunately, the half chances he got he didn't >> look convincing. We deserved a draw overall but if we continue with >> this defence (we have no choice now) we will get beat in games where >> we have the play and the chances. It's that simple. >> Scores: >> Miesler - 7. Not much chance with the goals. Kept us in it 2nd half >> with a great save from one of their counters. >> Ayling - 7. Yes first half he did slip up for the goal but overall I'd >> say he's a dependable right back >> Allioski - 5. Good shot that hit the post, nice left foot and some >> good link up play 2nd half but he's not left back and when it comes to >> defending set pieces he doesn't contribute at all. >> LO Liam - 6. Some good defending as always but he nearly gave the ball >> away right in front of our box. I think a slip on the pitch saved us. >> I worry about his set piece defending also. He has a habit of pulling >> shirts and grabbing attackers. A few pens coming I feel. >> Ripper - 6. Ball watching for the goal but there were plenty of good >> things. I think he actually has the ball skills to take the ball >> further forward than he does. Is he the answer at centre back ? Not >> sure ? >> Dallas - 7. Lively performance as always. Loads of work, loads of good >> play. Is central midfield his position ? I don't think so. >> Philips - 5. Poor first half. The game was too quick for him and just >> passed him by. In games like this he stands out for me as being slow >> and pedestrian. Second half, when we were on top and in control, I >> thought he did well and he put some good challenges in to break up >> their play and get us going. >> Raphinha - 8. Good goal, good skill and always keen to chase back. >> Bamford - 6. Some decent play but not even close to a goal. Ok he >> plopped one on the top of the bar but he never looked close. >> Harrison - 6. Poor first half but he came strong 2nd half. Surprised >> he got taken off and replaced by the hapless Costa when we were >> searching for an equaliser. I can only assume he was fucked. >> Klich - 7. Lively, all over the place. I see some on Twitter think >> he's close to his shelf life but I think he made a real difference at >> times last night without getting to the heights we've seen in the last >> 2 seasons. >> Subs: >> Pablo - 4. Didn't happen for him but he needs match practice and I'm >> afraid it doesn't look like he's gonna get it. >> Roberts - 6. Surprised at a lot of fans including Noel Whelan slagging >> Roberts and saying he's nowhere near a PL player. I'd say we don't >> know that yet but what I see is a fit, young, hungry player who wants >> the ball and looks sharp. I think he's got a lot to offer and it's not >> a popular view but I'd give him a start up front. >> Costa - 0. Pants >> Palace on Monday. 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