John,

'fraid I agree 100% with Pete C,  I really can't see what  

> the answer to this 
> conundrum is in the hands of the fans.  Always will be always 
> has been.

actually means in the real world. The fans had a "chance" at various times
in the last few years, but nothing happened, AFAICS because of lack of
leadership, too many disparate views and most importantly lack of financial
clout.  No major club has ever been saved or improved purely by the fans has
it?

I honestly believe that at the moment our only hope is a no nonsense big
headed bastard and Bates fits the bill perfectly (as indeed would you if you
had a spare £20mill ;-)

ttfn

R


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