John, 'fraid I agree 100% with Pete C, I really can't see what
> the answer to this > conundrum is in the hands of the fans. Always will be always > has been. actually means in the real world. The fans had a "chance" at various times in the last few years, but nothing happened, AFAICS because of lack of leadership, too many disparate views and most importantly lack of financial clout. No major club has ever been saved or improved purely by the fans has it? I honestly believe that at the moment our only hope is a no nonsense big headed bastard and Bates fits the bill perfectly (as indeed would you if you had a spare £20mill ;-) ttfn R _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist 'I am in shock,' said Ferguson.

