Thanks for all the advice
   
  Well for those who are interested the update is that;
   
  I found the ITunes Library on the PC and added these songs back into ITunes.
  That found 12,000 songs - of these it looks like about 2,000 are songs i had 
previously had on ITunes but had deleted by the time every thing went wrong.
  So i seem to have about 10,000 of the 14,600 i had before. I think the 10,000 
are the ones i ripped from Cds (they are in AAC format) so the 4,600 others are 
probably downloaded songs/mp3s/mp4s that are scattered in various places on PC.

  I connected the IPod shuffle to the PC to see what happened and it basically 
told me it was synched to a different library and so if i continued all the 
songs on the shuffle will be deleted.
  I assume that the main IPod will do the same. Unfortunately you don't seem to 
be able to unsync the IPod from ITUnes until you plug it in and as soon as you 
plug in it - it'll wipe all the songs.
   
  Now seem to have 2 choices - keep the 10,000 i now have in the library and 
overtime try and work out what the other 4,600 were.
  Attempt to use a different programme to copy the tunes from the Ipod back to 
the PC
   
  Ultimately i don't think i've lost many songs - they are all there somewhere 
- just going to be a huge pain getting them all re-organised and i will have 
lost all the play-counts / playlists permanently.
   
  Matt
  
eric barlier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Itunes a pain? OK.. anyways, moving on:

have you got your ipod set to use as a DISK as well? if you do you 
can and should be able to recover all the mp3s from the ipod.
if not you should be able to connect it to pc still and choose NO 
when it asks you if you want to use the current library instead of 
the one you ve got.
BUT I consider this risky and wont recommend it unless you re screwed 
anyways.

let me know how things go.

Eric

On 19 Mar 2007, at 12:11, Steve Gillen wrote:

> I don't use the damn things myself - iTunes is more of a pain to 
> friends
> of mine than any other piece of software. - I am continually getting
> them asking me questions about I, which is a shame as I know very 
> little
> indeed about it.
>
> However, I understand what you mean about losing the songs on the Ipod
> if you connect it (this is how I lost all my addresses and contact
> details when I connected my nicely full PDA to the cradle to 
> restore the
> missing ones in Outlook on the main PC.
>
> Getting to the point - I would suggest looking for an IPOD and iTunes
> discussion forum - surely this must have happened to someone else at
> some time? There must be people who can tell you what to do - That's
> what I would do anyway
>
> Good Luck
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MATTHEW 
> GAYNOR
> Sent: 19 March 2007 12:03
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [LU] [Non-LU] ITunes Help
>
> Turned on the PC yesterday and started ITunes to find it had 
> absolutely
> no songs on it.
> Which was a surprise as there were 13,000 of them when i turned 
> off on
> Saturday.
>
> Tried rebooting - still nothing there.
> Looked in recycle bin - a few files deleted a week ago - nothing
> recent.
> I did nothing unusual on Sat - just read e-mail / listened to a few
> songs.
> Last FM runs with Itunes - the history here is fine.
>
> Anyone know what i can do to get them back - any idea what may have
> happened.
>
> I haven't backed up recently - yes i know i should have.
>
> ----
> Also i still have all the songs on my IPod.
> Can i copy them back to ITunes ?
> Problem is that the option to switch to manual load only appears 
> once
> IPod is plugged in and i'm worried that as soon as i connect IPod the
> automatic synchronisation will click in and i'll lose the lot off 
> of the
> IPod as well
>
> Help
>
> Matt
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