God save us from the self-righteous. On this choice, Bates in!
Damian ----- Original Message ----- From: "vanillafudge LUFC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "leedslist" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: [LU] Divine Knowledge > ----- Original Message ----- >> I am not on of the inner sanctum on here that seem to know everything >> about everything hence my email enlighten me! > > I'm not sure what your complaint really is here. When people ARE trying to > elighten you then you appear to simply reject it (so why should they > bother > ?). > People don't "know" things as a sort of divine right or some mystical or > privileged process. It comes as a result of hard work and dedication and > getting themselves involved. How are you involved ? Are you a member of > the > supporters Trust ? You can join up on-line very easily. > www.lufctrust.org. > Let me know if you have any problems. Get yourself involved and I can > almost > guarantee that somehow you will end up knowing more than you do now (but > it > won't be an accident). > > I also suggest that you actually READ what has been written. Did you > notice > the bit about Bates' promises not being delivered in full ? Why would > those > who willingly sold the club to Bates and who received warm paise from > Bates > at the time turn into "sworn enemies" as you say. Is it because they are > simply bad people ? Even then, why would bad people do this ? What > publicity > is David Richmond getting ? Or Helme ? Are you suggesting that there were > creditors to pay off that Bates did not know all about ? When did this > happen ? When he took over, or after he told us all (just after Cardiff) > that there were no more excuses and that nobody from the past could be > blamed any longer. > If "all" that Bates has done is to get in over his head then how is that > any > less a major fault with massive implications for our football club and how > is it anbodys fault other than his own ? If you "get in over your head" on > something and let everybody down in a very big way as a result, then whose > fault would it be ? > > There was a known and understood process for the football debts to decay > and > erode over the period up until next month. There were no surprises there. > The contingent liabilities were also known and understood. If somebody > fails > to manage a process which is understood, mapped out, and fully predictable > then is it fair to say that their management is a failure ? > > There are documents available to you from Companies House, from the Land > Registry, and from any of the clubs creditors. You could make phone calls > to > any number of people and ask questions or have discussions. You could have > meetings. All of these things would lead to greater knowledge. > Alternatively > you might not want to bother with any of these things but that does not > give > whatever you wish to say about it equal weight with those people who do > put > in this effort. > You are of course free to say whatever you wish but, like it or not, THEY > will KNOW more than you about it. You can either find these things out for > yourself or listen to and rely on what other people are telling you. It is > your choice. > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..." > > _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist The Leeds List - "where never is heard a discouraging word..."
