----- Original Message ----- > 'fans chief' - now that's a laugh. Agree completely. It is a total joke. Unfortunately no matter how many times you tell journalists, their sub-editors get their hands on it and before you know it they have printed some lazy crap like fans chief or fans leader. They simply have no idea, and don't really care anyway, about how much they piss off the likes of yourself when they write or say things like this. There is not much that anyone can do about it so it is going to happen but it is not because anyone claims any such position. You are though being highly selective. There are just as many, if not more instances where the article or soundbite makes it perfectly clear that the Trust is NOT claiming to speak on behalf of the fans as a whole. You appear not to have noticed. I guess you wouldn't get the cheap shot in if you took a more realistic and more balanced approach, and this IS nothing more than a cheap shot. Nothing personal at all Richard but I can't control lazy sub editors and I'm sure that you are fully aware of that.
>Nothing personal at all - Rick seems like a decent bloke but I do wonder > about the statement on the LUST web site that he > couldn't attend Saturday games cos he was playing > local football. What on earth do you find to wonder about at that ? I used to play full games on Saturday mornings, full games on Saturday afternoons and frequently a full game on a Sunday. All that says is that I was a reasonable player at local level and fairly fit. What do you find to wonder about ? I would never have been a season ticket holder back then anyway as that much money was way beyond my dreams. >The only experience of LUST that I have is Rick shouting his mouth off on >this list and Well if your posts amount to your shouting your mouth off on this list then your terminology is fair enough. > asking a few arkward questions at the open forum > session. To be perfectly frank the LUST is a nothing > organisation in my eyes (and just about everyone else > I know who supports Leeds). They do not represent the > 'real fans' , never have done and never will. The Trust cannot represent those who do not wish to be represented and the Trust makes no attempt to do so. We speak for Trust members and do our best to act in the wider best interests of Leeds fans generally. The few awkward questions you mention were fairly stinging attacks on the accounts as being described by the club to the fans. I think subsequent events bear out and fully vindicate the need to agressively question what we were being told at that time. Were you at the forum Richard and what questions did YOU ask ? I'm not suggesting that you didn't, it is a serious question. >Let them get on with it - visions of grandeur me thinks. Sorry but this is entirely a product of your own imagination. The Trust has no delusions about its place in the grander scale of things. I really don't think this exchange has much at all to do with the Trust and it is really more about your own personal attitudes. You frequently appear to adopt an us and them approach for no obvious reason and with no obvious justification. Just my opinion of course. I hope you really mean -Let them get on with it - because that's all we ask to do really. If you are excluded then it is your own choice entirely and one which you are free to make. It's a pity, but there it is. I assume that there is no point in asking you to join the Trust so that youmight no longer see it as an us and them thing ? _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org

