I was really doing my best not to leave lurk mode and I know what I am about to say will prompt 900 indignant messages from Mark Humphries and Luisa (which evidently I will not read), BUT I have to say I agree with the Southend supporter. Some of you need to get a life and stop it already with all this boo hoo hoo, everybody hates us, what a terrible injustice rubbish.
I have had a letter printed in the Fiver (for which I received a very nice smiley T-shirt), so I am evidently qualified to comment, thusly: As Malcolm X would say, this is nothing but the chickens coming home to roost. If you have a chairman who tries to drive a coach and horses through the rules and sh*t on everybody who gets in the way then sooner or later you're going to pay the cost. Let's be serious, apart from Ken's toyboys on the list, we all know that the CVA was a stitch-up and that Astor are not unrelated to Bates. This, along with Bates' lifetime history of extremely dodgy deals, is the reason HMRC was against the CVA. Contrary to what people have being saying, there is no evidence that the CVA was legal, since it got abandoned before the case got to court. Even if it was, it was so evidently dishonest to have put everybody's backs up and so asking for sympathetic treatment now is ridiculously naive. The same goes for the supposed 25-point penalty. What Ken did was to take us into admin when we were already down. You can argue all you like about whether this was within the letter of the law, but it was obviously contrary to the spirit, which is that if you go into admin you suffer some sort of negative consequence. Our first ten-point penalty was meaningless, because Ken engineered it so that when it was incurred a 0-point penalty or a 3,000-point penalty would have made no difference. What sort of message would the FL be sending if it allowed this? Anybody who suffers relegation can stuff its creditors with impunity because we'll just notch up the points deduction with the relegation total where it makes sod all difference. Again, if you try to play right up against the limit of the rules, you might get away with it, but you can't expect sympathy if it all goes pear-shaped. So yes, let's all start organizing boycotts against those responsible for the terrible injustices suffered by the club. Namely: - Not putting in any meaningful funds, taking out a top-notch salary, selling off anything that moves, saddling us with all sorts of debts that nobody knows where they came from and then taking us into administration (thus making fools of all those who argued that getting Bates was better than administration, because his funds would save us). Responsible: Ken Bates - Putting in a psychopath with no management nouse who took us straight down to Division 3, pausing only briefly to embarrass us with such wonderful episodes as the leaked team sheet for which the player responsible was never going to play for the club again, except that nobody knew who it was (thus making fools of all those who said Ken had a point to prove and would thus take us back to the Premier). Responsible: Ken Bates - Slashing attendances by putting up prices to almost Chelsea levels for sub-standard football and alienating vast sections of the club's support with his lack of respect for our heritage and his heavy-handed vendettas (thus making fools of everyone who argued that Ken had top-class management skills, or maybe they were fools already?). Responsible: Ken Bates - F*cking the club's creditors, with an insulting CVA, passed in highly dodgy circumstances but then abandoned in highly dodgy circumstances, refusing to get out of the way and let someone less problematic take over and successfully courting everybody's hatred to the point that nobody in power was prepared to do us too many favours. Responsible: Ken Bates The worst thing about this is that Bates' fans now tell us we are now supposed to rally around the club, ie. Bates. Well you can count me out. If I was still in the UK, I would keep on going to matches, home and away, sing my heart out for the lads, but at the same time make it abundantly clear that Bates is not welcome at my club and make it as unpleasant as possible for him, so that he sods off ASAP. If Oldham fans managed to drive him out, then I don't see why we can't, because we are evidently not going anywhere but further down with him in charge. Peace, Pete H At 15:15 09/08/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Matthew Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:24 PM >Subject: Re: [LU] Appeal Lost - ffs, stop whingeing about it!! > > >>My southend fan mate reckons we deserve it and should stop whinging >>because its going to get a lot worse for us > >Yebbut I bet he's never had a letter printed in The Fiver, eh? > >- Sean _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist Join The Leeds United Supporters Trust at www.lufctrust.org
