"What were the irish troubles supposedly based on?

Even the baltic states were targeted by the catholic church for being 
pagen!"

I deliberately did not mention the Catholic religion which is not only 
totally corrupt but responsible for more deaths on the planet than probably 
any other cause.
And nothings changed except that countries like Spain seem to be ignoring it 
totally.
They have had enough of the crap

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And christianity did what in the previous few hundred years?

What were the irish troubles supposedly based on?

Even the baltic states were targeted by the catholic church for being pagen!

Basically islam is 1400 years old, christianity is 2000. If you consider 
that these things develop and evolve and you see what what I am getting at. 
But the pace of evolution with the modern world is increasing and you will 
get fundamentalist puritanical types as religions hold onto the past.

People will always find examples that prove the rule.

The saudi king visit for example...widely condemned and protestested agaimst 
but he is actually a moderniser. For example since he has been in power 
officially and as caretaker manager saudi arabia is building more than 100 
colleges for women... Unthinkable in previous years... And of course they 
are very rich.

In fact on the Al shabab fc email list they are joking about the king 
escaping from the uk without being mugged, knifed, raped shot etc...


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"Truely scary and truely a huge
mis-interpretation of the religion (I hope)"

I dont think the western world gave a monkeys toss about interpreting
religions in general and Muslim in particular until it was forced upon them
by a religion whose mission is to take over the world and rid it of all
other religions. Tell me I have got it wrong!

Did you ever hear about Cof E or Baptists/Methodists/Buddhists or whatever
commiting terrorist acts in the name of their religion.



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> Sorry Robert - Having lived in KSA and visited Mecca for work, I do have a
> love for the religion of Islam and what it means to people (I am nost a
> muslim however)
>
> But your paragraphn below...
>
> "The fact is that as long as the muslim population of the world, and
> specifically of Britain, perceive that British policy is unjust towards
> muslims, then there are going to be young hotheads who will get fired up
> enough to commit atrocities.  So that means as long as a) we have troops
> occupying Iraq and b)[sorry Mad Doctor Mike, you're not going to like
> this and you're going to accuse me of anti-semitism] we support Israel's
> genocide and land-grabbing in Palestine...........then everybody in the
> UK is in trouble."
>
> Shows the bastardisation of the religion and the Koran, and if this is
> what
> you believe, then yes we all are in for a shed load of trouble - if this
> is
> whatyou agree with, the God help you (no pun intended)
>
> Also its not just Britain, look at the fundamentalism in Indonesia, which
> be
> both on your amd my doorsteps. Truely scary and truely a huge
> mis-interpretation of the religion (I hope)
>
> ------ Well it had been a quiet week after the loss - hopefully overnight
> we
> can all start singing together again
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert HEATH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "LUList" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [LU] 2K Terrorists
>
>
>> Well, since you ask.............the whole "MI5/anti-terror/war on
>> terror" thing is a load of total claptrap.  2,000 terrorists?  What a
>> load of nonsense!  They haven't got a clue who is planning what out
>> there, but just like all that guff about the so-called plot in summer
>> 2006 to blow up planes with liquid bombs, they engineer "news items"
>> every now and then to make it seem like they have half an idea what is
>> happening.
>>
>> The fact is that as long as the muslim population of the world, and
>> specifically of Britain, perceive that British policy is unjust towards
>> muslims, then there are going to be young hotheads who will get fired up
>> enough to commit atrocities.  So that means as long as a) we have troops
>> occupying Iraq and b)[sorry Mad Doctor Mike, you're not going to like
>> this and you're going to accuse me of anti-semitism] we support Israel's
>> genocide and land-grabbing in Palestine...........then everybody in the
>> UK is in trouble.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Michael
>> Benjamin
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:22 AM
>> To: LUList
>> Subject: [LU] 2K Terrorists
>>
>> Hi
>> What on earth is going on n the UK?
>> If those figures are anywhere right you have a worse problem than us.
>> What went wrong and why?
>> This may not be LU but it is UK and LU forr a lot of expats like me is
>> our
>> link to the home we left
>> Without diatribes and if you want off line can someone explan that
>> figure.
>> Remember for every one recognised you have at least 5 sympathisers or
>> tacit
>> supporters. [So I read once]
>> After 1-3 I have no predictions. A milder 4-0 feeling but nothing like
>> the
>> 'conviction ' of the 3-1
>> Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Dr Michael Benjamin,
>> Psychiatrist
>> myRay: For peace of mind,
>>
>> Free Online Self-Help CBT: http://www.myray.com
>> Fact Sheet: Emotional Stress: http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com
>> A Psychiatrist's Blog: http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com
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