>From the Service Crew Website http://www.leedssc.org.uk/ & scroll down.
This poster also gave good information about the original meeting when 15pt penalty was imposed, so he treated as a respected source in those fora. "From a collegue in chambers... The abitration pannel are now looking at one question and one question only - was the punishment of a 15-point deduction fair and just at the time it was handed out. It is this question and this question only which will determin Leeds' fate. Leeds, clearly, are saying no. The Football League are saying yes. The arguments have been (and I'm generalising here to avoid penning an novel) as follows: Leeds United are saying that the didn't break any Football League rules and, hence, the punishment is unfair. They are arguing that AT THE TIME of their emergence from administration there was no statute on the FL books for coming out of administration. Leeds say that the Football League legislated specifically to deal with their situation in retrospect. Essentially, Leeds argue that you can not flout a law prior to said law being introduced and at the time of their "crime" the law was not in place. The Football League's argument revolves around the vote of league clubs. They say that the vote wasn't on whether Leeds United should be docked points, but whether a 15 point deduction was fair for ANY club who failed to emerge from administration according to new FL rules. Leeds, they say, would simply be the first to be handed such a punishment. So: In summary, they are considering a question similar this: If you punched somebody in the face, could you be convicted of assault if assault was yet to be made illegal. Could you make rules to fit a crime in retrospect. In simple legal-ese (i.e, was the deduction a fair and just punishment at the time of it being handed out) the consensus seems to be no. Early indications suggest that Leeds WILL get their 15 points back, and win promotion to the Championship, with a recommendation that clubs affected (Carlisle, Doncaster, Southend, Nottingham Forest) be awarded "significant" financial compensation from the Football League. Ken has NOT been offered any points back yet (i.e five points as settlement). That's it, in a nutshell." _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist DELETE THE FOOTERS WHEN REPLYING YOU LAZY SODS!!!! DELETE THE FOOTERS WHEN REPLYING YOU LAZY SODS!!!!

