That is a pretty good summary if not actual cut and paste :-)
  I got confused by this bit (actual c & p)  "They should have been given the 
fine and told that was that, but they probably thought 'We're Leeds, we'll get 
away with it'.
  I am sure if we had been "given the fine" we would have accepted it !!
   
  The Telegraph is even more ridiculous "Leeds' attempt to win back 15 points 
has left League One mired in obfuscation. Leeds were deducted points for 
entering administration, as per the rules. "
   
  I hope that the arbitration panel explain, when they give their decision 
(hopefully giving us the points back) in simple terms what has gone on so all 
this misinformed dickheads can grasp it 
  I am sick of arguing about it all with know-nothings from other clubs - one 
of Arsenal fans on train back from Millwall was asking if it was right we had 
had 25 points docked cos he thought it was 15 but his mate said 25 ! By time we 
had explained about tax man etc he agreed we had been unfairly treated - OK I 
had given him a beer so maybe he was biased but other lads I have explained it 
all too, once they have grasped it, do appear to be on our side (at least one 
has said the points deduction should stand because we are "Yorskhire bastards" 
which is a fair enough reason but other than that was unfair !
   
  Dave
   
   
  inister dexter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Had a few problems trying to cut and paste this for the web 
challanged, but this is the gist of it

Swansea vice-captain Alan Twate today hit out at a near neighbour 
after his club were told they will not lift the League One trophy this 
weekend.

The Football League informed Swansea there will be no presentation 
after their final home game of the season against Leyton Orient on 
Saturday because of the ongoing shambolic situation created by them 
regarding Leeds United.
It has left the Swans wondering whether they have won the 
championship, despite the fact that they prematurely celebrated doing 
so last weekend.

Twate lays the blame for such a ludicrous position on a man who lives 
three doors down from him.

"As far as we're concerned, we're in the Champions League," he ranted.

"We haven't broken any rules. We haven't gone into administration and 
tried to get the points taken away when we knew it wouldn't matter. 
But Leeds are trying to get the points back after they were shafted by 
the FL and we can't do anything about that.

"It's a surprise to me that you should ask me anything about this, and 
it's ridiculous that it's still going on when it should have been put 
to someone who understands what's going on.

"They should have been given the fine and told that was that, but they 
probably thought 'Hang on, we're being shafted by the FL here, do we 
let them get away with it?'. They're the same big club they were a few 
years ago. They are a big club, but they need to realise they are in 
League One and all the other parasite club owners need the gatemoney 
they generate.

"It's embarrassing that I've been allowed to talk about something 
that's too difficult for me to grasp the basics of. If I was a Leeds 
fan I'd understand a little bit more about it.

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