On 17 May 2008 at 23:09, Robert HEATH wrote:

> These {deleted} Welsh are really starting to get on my tits.

  knock it off Rob, and all the rest who joined in. Dr mike you should
  know better.

  there's nowt wrong as such with the welsh or wales. sure there's
  things that get made fun of, can irritate but that's the same 
  everywhere, and this includes gods own count(r)y, and us yorkies.
  to go and blame a whole counry and its people for the sins and
  failings of a few, of an orhanization, is ott and sacks of certain
  unsavoury attitudes. and wehat has the wembley roof got to do
  with the welsh? (i know it wasn't rob made the reponse to that).
  as to the national athem being sung and comment on abide with
  me, well abide with me was sung, and lesley grantham (a good
  yorkshire lass) really belted it out with gusto. the national anthem
  has always been sung after abide with me me (well for a very
  long time and remember the first abide with me was at the 1927
  final when, er, cardiff played). and i personally thought it a nice
  gesture to sing land of my fathers as well.

  if you really want to talk abouth cultural and ethnic groups then
  how about being serious? I am amazed that no one here has
  mentioned the research by bath universtity on regional acccents
  presented to the British Psychological Society´s annual meeting
  in Dublin some six weeks ago, and was widely reported in the 
  media.

  For anyone who didn't see it was a study into dialect and perceived  
  intelligence to see if the stigma attached to regional accents has
  diminished. Received pronunciation, the accent of royalty and public
  school alumni, has fallen from its leading role for the first time.
  Worst whre brummies - It found that people with the distinctive nasal
  tones of the Birmingham region are considered far less intelligent than
  those with other accents, despite a general trend in which regional
  dialects have become more respectable.

  And what was top? The accent most strongly associated with wisdom
  and intellect? Why the Yorkshire accent with an intelligence score 
  of 6.71 out of 10. Next was RP, at 6.67, followed by silence with 5.99.
  Last was the Birmingham accent, with a score of 5.6.
  A similar association between accent and attractiveness was found. 

  Why didn't I post anything? Well when it came out I was in Belfast
  and using webmail and didn't have much time to read list mail, never
  mind post. By the time i got back and (partly) caught up with mail
  i was of again, this time to Cardiff.

  May the celtic fringes continue in all their glory !

  guy



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