Is this really "the worst defeat in our history"? What's that unusual about a 3rd division team losing to non-league opposition? Is it "worse" than the great Leeds team losing to Colchester? Is it "worse" than the Sunderland final? Is it "worse" than some of those 4 goal drubbings we got at home vs Arsenal when we struggling to stay in the Premiership (and struggling to stay on the same planet as Thierry Henry)? In terms of the history of the club is it "worse" than the home draw against ManU that should been a 2-1 win - think about the repercussions of that one? Is it "worse" than last summer's result at Wembley...? I mean that this was a competition we had no hope of winning. I don't care about being out of it. If we go forward and gain promotion this year we won't even remember it. Yes there are problems - mainly with the defence - which we gather is Staunton's area... I agree with what you say about Prutton and Showunmi - I'd have started with Prutton, Howson, Douglas and Delph in the middle for eg. for the work rate and forward momentum if nothing else, but really to start going after Macca is nonsense (and I'm not saying you are). Let's start with the perennial when people start talking like this "who would be better?" - realistic options, not Wenger/Scolari etc.
-----Original Message----- From: Phill Shields [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2008 12:46 To: Nick Allen; [email protected] Subject: RE: [LU] Histon. Nick, not sure why you think the worst defeat in the club's history is meaningless. Like you I am not calling for Macca's head but he needs to wake up and smell the coffee quickly. For the games we have lost recently a lazy journalist who couldnt bother watching the games could have submitted a pre-prepared report just saying that Leeds dominated possession, lacked penetration and were beaten by set plays. It happened again yesterday but this time to a team of part-timers. We are too predictable and frankly teams do not need to work hard to score against us. What are we doing in training - isnt Stan Staunton an ex international defender?? The conditions were poor but you could tell that before the KO and after 20 minutes it was clear Delph was not going to play a key role. Prutton should have been on from the start as should Showumni. As for Lubo, his performances this year have been dreadful and he was supposed to be marking the lad who scored their goal yesterday? Bringing Marquis back for his 1st game was a mistake, he had a shocker yesterday. Their two front lads seemed to control the ball ok on the surface. Need to make signings in January, all defenders. If we are off the pace in the New Year I fear for our manager, I really do. Regards Phill MOT > Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 11:00:05 +0000 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] Histon. > > Its an embarrassment to lose to Histon but in terms of the desirablility of > progressing in a competition we were never going to win, its meaningless. > > As far as Macca's future is concerned, I don't think there should even be a > question. We're playing the best football I've seen from a Leeds team for > several years (making the necessary allowances for the difference in standard > and opposition). We are apparently, the leading goalscorers in all 4 > divisions, so some ITV gonk said yesterday. What needs sorting is the > defence...and in reality what that means is either some proper work on the > training ground or one of Marques/Huntington/Telfer to rediscover some form > to play alongside Lubo - who did a good job with good attitude yesterday - or > to bring in a new CHalf. Because what is lacking is a proper authoratative > CHalf to boss the defence - the full backs are as good as most in this league > and wouldn't be such a weak point if the centre of defence was solid. > > Finally, even given the conditions, the approach of some of the players was > naïve yesterday - the attempts to run and dribble the ball or to pass it > along the ground were always doomed to failure. They should know that it has > to be clipped or even just hoofed, sometimes. Thought Becchio's control was > dreadful, Robinson continually headed up blind alleys and lost the ball, and > I can't remember Hughes making a pass that didn't go either into touch or to > one of theirs. > > At least Enoch gave their defence some work to do. That said Lubo was unlucky > twice and their fullback Gwillam made two blinding last ditch tackles. Good > luck to them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Walker > Sent: 01 December 2008 08:44 > To: Leeds List; Matt Anderson > Subject: Re: [LU] Histon. > > > Given the draw it's definitely a blessing in disguise that we're out. I can't > be arsed to go into an in depth analysis. The whole program was absolute > torture to watch - how many times did the bloke mention the Histon ducks, > pubs, post office and lake - sickening, and then we started going on about > Montgomery and Poterfield I just had to turn the sound off. Shame really 'cos > Beglin was dying for us to get an equaliser. > Few points: > > Hughes - you put him in the side to battle in conditions like this but he's > incapable. You won't win anything with Hughes and Douglas in midfield. > > I'm surprised noone has mentioned Bechhio. Was that the worse performance > ever by a Leeds player. He was shocking. Even in those conditions I expect > our players to be able to pass and control a ball. THis was a step too far > for Bechhio. He had two very good chances and failed to make the keeper make > a save. He was also outmuscled and outhought by a postman. > I don't care how many goals he will score in this league (Kandol proved that > in this league in a decent team you don't have to have ability to that) he's > poor and I can't stand watching players without basic ability. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > is Michel Kitabdjian dead yet? > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators > accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > is Michel Kitabdjian dead yet? _____ Get Windows Live Messenger on your Mobile. 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