On 12 February 2010 14:46, Chris Briggs <[email protected]> wrote: > Mike, the truth does not and can not come in between as the point you are > making is very different
Chris - sorry I read your email in a rush and didn't appreciate the distinction you were making. > You are addressing a point about the police being perceived as being heavy > handed and I understand that having been in a similar position myself. I was > highlighting that the FSF was making a point about the CPS and punishments, > their statement as written is not factually correct. > The police are in a precarious position, regardless of whether you have hit > someone or not, there is always the possibility that someone may do it to > you. They have to look at what could possibly happen, part of the police's > role in policing events is not about detecting crime but about mitigating > risks and ensuring that any disturbance is kept at a minimum. My uncle used > to be in charge of policing large events within west yorkshire and often > spent saturdays at ER or valley parade and I have heard / seen what goes on > on the other side of the fence. Please don't think I'm having a go at the police per -se - I have worked with some great officers in the past, and a good friend (and fellow match goer) is a copper. I don't entirely agree with the point of the police being in precarious position. I think when it comes to football (70's and 80's knobheads I know - but we're 20 years on) the police are incredibly risk averse and far too conservative in a lot of cases. Personally I feel that I'm in more danger of being smacked during a night out in Wakefield than going to the average Leeds game, but I don't see the police escorting me down Westgate ;-) > The main point I was making (which you agree with) is that a lot of laws are > made as a result of a knee jerk reaction to an incident, when really the > application of existing laws more effectively is the key, and example of > which is that the FSF continuously make comment about Section 27 when really > the police have similar powers with Section 60 (apart from the removal from > site for 48 hours) and have been able to move on groups of people for the > past 150 years. Agreement on the list? Shocking! Anyway, I've strayed off topic badly. Anyone like to suggest a team for tomorrow? Will Beckford be back? Cheers MIke _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist www.leedslist.net
