Thirkers! Haven't you noticed this down the years with MDM's posts..............I think it all depends on which pills he has been taking, but he fluctuates wildly between outrageous optimism and the deepest depression.
This Bates thing is, as you point out, a classic example. P.S. Thanks for the weather news. _____ From: Graham Thirkill [mailto:[email protected]] To: [email protected] Cc: LEEDS LIST [mailto:[email protected]], Richard Walker [mailto:[email protected]], Sean Emmott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:08:55 +0200 Subject: Re: [LU] Ken Bates The Saviour (Facts) -Continued. An old article but still a good read Fucking hell maddy, for fucks sake, what a turnaround, only a couple of weeks ago you were asking what had this man done to deserve being criticised on this list. Now it would appear you know all about him, you say he is a self centred vicious bastard and you are are a fully paid up member of the I hate Bates society, or are you just a fucking sheep following others and you have no proof whatsoever of any wrong doings by this man who some say saved Leeds United from extinction. You are the mad man I thought you were. Tell me who he diddled, when was he vicious, what has he done in the name of Leeds United that are a disgrace, what is he going to sell and wreck the price of and who are the pretenders that you speak of. Please answer these questions for me, seeing as you are such an authority on Mr Ken Bates and maybe I may become as wise as you are on the subject. Thirkers PS It's raining this afternoon here in Ravenscar. On 29 Mar 2010, at 13:36, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: > The one thing I can't abide with our Ken is he is without any sentiments or > thought for anything but himself. In particular the process where he > officially diddled those that should never have been diddled. He is just > bloody vicious and crude. > The fact that we try and explain, sometimes with success that it is all for > the good of Leeds United does not change a thing. He has done things in the > name of Leeds United that are a disgrace. But they were all in his own > interests. > He wasn't representing me or my sentiments. The fact that he cares not is > neither here or there. > The guy is predictable and out for one thing. Right now it's in his interest > to promote Leeds United's well being. When the day comes, as it surely must > when those two interests, his and Leeds's, are no longer compatible there is > no one with any doubt what he will do. If Ken can sell or wreck the price > and not the sentiment will be decisive. > Meanwhile there are those that are free to pretend that the day will not > come. In fact all of at some time have probably preferred to pretend. > But after the pretending is over Bates remains the same self centred vicious > bastard. > The guy is disaster waiting to happen. > Michael . > Dr Michael Benjamin, > Community Psychiatrist > ------------------------------- > myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT > http://www.myRay.com > ------------------------------ > Mental Health: > http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com > -------------------------------- > Auditing || Quality Control > http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ > -------------------------------- > Blog: > http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com > > > > On 29 March 2010 15:16, Richard Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Good mail Sean. The more you think about Bates's contribution over the past >> few years it make syou think why we've put up with it. THe scum fans have >> taken to protesting about their current owners. THey have nothing on Bates >> and yet us fans just keep taking it up the arse from him. >> >> Also, what about Radio Leeds and YEP that he fell out with. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Sean Emmott <[email protected]> >> To: Richard Walker <[email protected]> >> Cc: LEEDS LIST <[email protected]> >> Sent: Mon, 29 March, 2010 12:37:35 >> Subject: Re: [LU] Ken Bates The Saviour (Facts) -Continued. An old article >> but still a good read >> >> 1/ Relegation to the third division. >> 2/ An administration process so twisted it cost us 25 points, and during >> which he said he rarther see Leeds fold than himself lose control of the >> club. >> 3/ Loss of ties with the local community and a number of petty feuds with >> local businessmen, sometimes ending up in court, with hefty legal bills to >> be paid. >> 4/ How can it be Bates that saved us when he doesn't have any shares in >> the company that owns us? (Forward Sports Fund) >> 5/ Failure to buy back Thorp Arch >> >> According to his programme notes prior to May 2007 the club was breaking >> even, and the budget is based on not needing money from player sales or >> cup runs. So, the money from cup runs and player sales should be profit >> and available to invest in the club and in players. >> >> Lets look at what we've made in the past 3 years then: >> Delph £7.5m >> Compensation for Poyet & Wise £0.5m >> Compensation for the two kids Chelsea poached £4.0m >> Play off final ? £1m >> 2x play off semis £0.8m >> Liverpool, Spurs, Man U cup games £2m >> >> That's over £15m at conservative estimates. >> >> players we've paid money for in the past 3 years: >> Gradel: 250,000 >> Bromby: undisc >> >> er... >> ...that's it... >> ...even though I renewed my ST early so to plump up "simon's warchest". >> >> I'm not suggesting we can necessarily complete with the £800,000 that the >> mighty Southampton spent on Ricky Lambert, but I was surprised we were >> reduced to haggling over £25,000 for Gary Hooper. >> >> Still, there will be a £90m hotel on the spot where Billy Bremner's statue >> stands, so that's all right then. The club will be making a fortune from >> all those people who have only been deterred from taking their holidays in >> Beeston by the fact that the nearest Travel Lodge is half a mile away. >> >> I don't usually buy a programme these days, but when I do, I'm always keen >> to read the chairman's column so I find out about his vision for takin >> LUFC forward. the last time I did this I read about Live Aid and how we >> shouldn't give money to Africa, the scandal of the Global Warming "con", >> some stuff about legal cases and then, in the last paragraoh, something >> about Leeds. >> >> As for there not being anyone else coming forward to take over, I once >> spoke to one of the more respected list members who told me that the night >> Bates took over, Norman Stubbs was sitting in his solicitor's office >> waiting to sign the documents to finalise the deal... Krasner and his >> mates never turned up because they had a new best friend in Kenneth >> William, who has, lest we forget, saved us three times now. Even though >> he hasn't put any of his own money in. And even though he has no shares >> in FSF. And even though he takes no salary for being the UK >> representative of said FSF (even though he doesn't know who does own FSF). >> Yes, such is his love for LUFC that he works for nothing for people he >> doesn't know whose plans for LUFC we are not privvy to. 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