Chris, you're absolutely right, illegal drugs are causing huge amounts of crime. So legalise them, you fucking idiot.
Do you have any personal experience of using drugs yourself? If not, then YOU are talking bollocks. Nigel. On 30 May 2010 21:54, Chris Briggs <[email protected]> wrote: > <snip> I think you'll find that the drug that causes by far the most havoc > is perfectly legal. We should ban alcohol and legalise marijuana. Ever seen > stoners fight? <snip> > > Soz Maggie, but that is bollocks. > > Illegal drugs, and alcohol (to a much, much lesser extent), are the direct > cause on the level of criminal activity. Feeding a habit is responsible for > Assaults, burglary, theft, shoplifting, vagrancy, begging, robbery as well > as a multitude of Pubic Order offences. I am not saying that alcohol does > not cause problems as it clearly does but not to the extent of illegal > drugs. > > Most folk convicted of drug offences are offered drug rehab and in the case > of heroin addition a prescribed substitute, in these cases the offender (as > they are now classed due to the crime) are monitored by Probation and have > to attend regular drug testing. However, these things only ever work if the > offender wishes to give up the drugs and in the majority of cases they > don't. > > Making drugs legal would only increase the levels of criminal activity as > folk currently taking drugs would still be offending and those that would > take the newly legalised drugs would add to the tally. Drugs would still be > as addictive and folk still need to feed the habit. > > Comparing the crime stats for Drugs versus Alcohol does not give the full > picture. Alcohol production is quality controlled, has particular supply > laws attached to it and (importantly for govt revenue purposes) taxed at > production level and then via vat at the pub. In order to make drugs legal > would then mean that it has to be the subject to the same processes, etc. > This would then have a direct impact upon the quality and cost, yes the > quality would increase, but then this can potentially cause problems in > people that would take the same amount of a purer substance. Improving the > quality would increase the costs, increasing the costs would lead to people > taking things back underground, mixing in talc, etc and then knocking it out > at a cheaper price. > > For those interested, when it comes to drug testing heroin spends much less > time in the body than cannabis, approx 4 days compared to 3-4 months. > > But then that is my opinion, however, I do see the impact of these things > on society in my work as a Magistrate where, as well as convicting and > sentencing on these crimes I also get to spend time with various other > agencies within the criminal justice systems. Last week I was at a Youth > Offenders Institute (age 15 to 18) where 85% of the inmates were there as > punishment for a crime where drugs were related. > > Right then what's on the telly. > -- blog.mindbrix.co.uk/2010/01/20/zoomable-gallery/ www.concentrichron.com -- Mindbrix -- Dream it, draw it, build it, love it 69 Derby Street Beeston Nottingham NG9 2LG +44 7905 311 352 [email protected] www.mindbrix.co.uk Skype: ntbarber twitter.com/mindbrix _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun as it sails away
