Hi Bill,

Your not alone, I rarely get a response to any of my emails.  They have lost 
several sales from me because I decided to make my own replacement parts and 
accessories after countless email inquiries went un-answered.  It makes me 
wonder if I'm in the spam list or ignored on purpose.  It's always been said if 
you need a answer, call and talk to them.  Is that an option for you?

Magnate is fabulous.  They are fast to reply to all emails. They even call if 
they have any questions, or don't feel like typing long emails.  I have never 
had a bad customer service issue with them.  

Yes, this forum is the missing manual, and the missing support. It's a shame 
it's even needed.  I am very grateful for the past support of others here, and 
really admire the direction you are going with your machine and the mods you 
have done.  At least we can support each other as long as interest in the 
equipment exist.

Maybe your Bitchy message might get some attention.  Good Luck!

-Tim

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Bulkeley 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 6:33 PM
  Subject: Re: Flats on the end of Barley Twist


  Hi Guys
  Im going to do something today that im sure many of you have done im going to 
bitch about legacy 
  they such a pain in the ass to buy from especially if your overseas like me. 
im trying to put in a order for some parts nothing special but I email and 
email and wait and wait and nothing I wonder if I was ordering a top of the 
range wiz bang cnc worth many thousands of dollars would they be so 
unaccommodating. in a smaller market like Australia if we treated our existing 
customers this way you would be out of business quite quickly, you cant just 
rely on selling new machines with out proper follow up service, they really do 
give me the shits. im interested if any one else out there has had 
similar??.thank god for this forum or we would really be in the dark learning 
about these wonderful machines.
  unlike magnate who are great to deal with put a order in online and a short 
time later my order arrives in the mail great and they even know how to use a 
computer and answer emails. 
  all I can say is any body contemplating buying a legacy machine make dam sure 
you get everything you need on the first order because it will drive you insane 
trying to get follow up parts for your machines.
  well enough bitching now.
  Bill




  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: LiLtwisted 
    To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
    Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 4:02 AM
    Subject: Re: Flats on the end of Barley Twist


    If you continue the cut and the flat goes away then the material is bowing 
away from the blade in the middle.  There are two suggestions.  The first is to 
sharpen the blade.  If it is a little dull, it may cut without burning but will 
cause enough pressure to push the wood away.  If your blade is sharp and the 
bowing is occurring, you will need a center support to give the material the 
ability to stand up to the force of the cut.  Have a look at what I did for a 
very extreme barley. http://www.turningaround.org/HollowSpiral.htm  Good luck 
and let us know what you find out.

    Mike
    OK
    PS
    Thank you ART for keeping your site open to us for these references.  Kudos

    woodche...@bellsouth.net wrote: 
I have been busy turning a cane using a 1" barley twist with two
starts.  The turnings start out fine and continue about 6 inches;
however, after that flats start showing up.  What is causing the
flats?  Can you please help me out?
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