Hi Tim What happened to the pictures and the rest of this book? Your articles and ideas are to the same excellent standards as your add-on for the Legacy. Please keep up the good work so that when I retire and have time to turn and use my Legacy I will have plenty of inspiration. Best regards Roger
-----Original Message----- From: legacy-ornamental-mills+bnccktrtvexcxd3rlnobboek0j...@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+bnccktrtvexcxd3rlnobboek0j...@googlegroups.c om] On Behalf Of Tim Krause Sent: 19 December 2010 19:04 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about turning pens on Legacy Hi Steve and all, There is a fine balance between ornamental plain patterns and grain features. For plain patterns, I make sure the lines are crisp so the light reflects off of each surface and highlights the wood. I will use tiny details to create reflections and shadows. Now on the other side of the scale, if the wood is boring and plain, I like to make the turnings more radical with spirals and a lot of index cuts to let the form take over the design. One exception to the rule is heavily spalted or oddly colored woods such as Zebrawood. In that case large heavy beads and coves really make the colors and grain patterns show up with deep cuts. They create curved lines on the surface of the beads that are fascinating to look at. Here's some other examples for fancy pens on the legacy that come to mind. 1. Use the legacy to hold a pen blank and cut three flat tapers. Now glue in a laminated piece of wood that is made up of two or more contrasting colors to replace the missing wood. Let it dry really well and cut off the excess stock and turn the pen to a simple cylinder. You will end up with a multi colored pen with scallops on three sides. This is a pool cue technique that I'm sure has been done on pens before but the legacy is suited for the job. 2. Load a pen blank and take a 1/8" or smaller cutter and cut flat bottomed grooves that go the length of the barrel to almost the depth of the mandrel hole. Use an odd number like three or five grooves. Then inlay three strips of veneer (one color in the center and a contrasting color on the outer layers) in the grooves and turn a simple pen with a couple of beads and coves to show the inlays are not just surface deep. You will get a look like it's segmented but it's not. The curve section will create arcs in the inlays. 3. You can take this idea further and make mini feature rings with this technique by cross cutting sections of the inlayed stock and then slice and dice your pen blank and insert the feature rings and glue the blank together. Again turn a simple shape to let the feature ring speak in place creating fancy turned objects. 4. Yet another idea, take a pen blanks and make 6 index cuts that are 1/8" wide but not too deep. You don't want the bottoms to touch each other. Now insert contrasting colored wood inlays in each cut and let the glue dry. Now cut a simple round shape. If done right, you will end up with a dot, dash pattern going around the pen. Can we see a trend here. The legacy is used to hold the blank and make cuts that are not easy to do with traditional tools and it will make other pen makers think you did something really complicated. 5. To me, the acrylic blanks would really speak volumes if they had more large flats to show the swirled patterns in the plastic. The acrylic could also be used as feature rings where two thirds of the material is wood and a third is acrylic. It's a classic proportion. Again a rather simple turning should be used to let the acrylic design really pop. That's just some food for thought. I sure would like to see some people run with these ideas and refine them. If you make a million bucks with these ideas, you will owe me a thanks, a pen, and some credit for getting you on your way :-) -Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: "SteveEJ" <s.jacobs0...@gmail.com> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 10:30 PM Subject: Re: Question about turning pens on Legacy I have used a 1/2 inch two flute straight cutter and spiral cut blood wood from the side. After that was complete I placed the parts on a lathe and cleaned up the ends before polishing. It turned out very nice. Same rule, offset the X axis -0.5 inches for each pass for the spirals. Next I will try it on acrylic. I will be looking at other router bit profiles next. Lots of fun but be sure to use eye protection! And a dust collector too! Tim, I did a spiral pencil look. It turned out pretty plain. I will have to try it again with a different bit. It has to be a straight cutter with a top cut in order to stay flat. Steve On Dec 18, 7:01 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote: > Famous disclaimer, I don't make pens but, if I where to, I would consider a > straight body with a tight diamond pattern for one example. Another > example, I would exploit the indexing capabilities and use a template to > make contoured multi-sided pens ( like a pencils but with style). Another > example is to use maybe a 3" pitch and create a pen that has six sides with > flat twists if that makes any sense. I also like the idea of small coves on > a tapered body. That would give you teardrops. There's so many things > that could be done but I rarely see. Does that help any? > > Another thing I just thought of, take a look at Jerry Beall's Pen Wizard > video (about 30 seconds in) for some more ideas and then just scale them to > the legacy platform.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXgBPEpWuoQ&feature=channel_page > > What Jerry calls a "Guiloche" pattern is more commonly referred to as a > reciprocated pattern in the Ornamental Turning world. I sell an accessory > to be able to do this on the legacy. I have never explored the > possibilities in a small scale, but I'm pretty sure it will work just fine.http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/waveattachment/waveat.. . > Other members of the group have built a similar attachment as well. > > -Tim > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com. 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