i make a variety of things, sometimes the legacy is my prefered tool,
sometimes even though it may do the job i use another tool because it will
do the job as well as or better than the legacy for me, i guess it depends
on the person, i like learning new things so i am always open to
suggestions.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Bill Bulkeley <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:

> in my years of being a fitter and turner if I could only work and did only
> work one machine say a center lathe instead of millers, borers, shapers,
> grinders, dills, slotters to mention just a few I would not have been
> imployed, you had to use what machine was needed  to do the job
> my philosophy is you must be a multiskilled woodworker and get with the
> times apart from anything else its damm fun to try all this different
> woodwork  stuff. if a job needs to be done in a lathe  then do it, if it
> needs to be done on the legacy then do that, if it needs to be done on cnc
> then use that provided you can afford one lolol and if you still cant do it
> then invent a way of doing it and who cares if others dont like it.that's
> what I do anyway it keep your mind active
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "begatbrown" <
> darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com>
>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
> <legacy-ornamental-mills@**googlegroups.com<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> >
> Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 12:03 PM
> Subject: Re: Interesting Turning Club Article on Legacy Machine
>
>
>
> Ron,
>
> That's a great story.  I've seen people stuck in their ways, but never
> at such a great price.  One of the reasons I like cnc is that it will
> allow an individual a good chance of being a truly independent and
> successful professional woodworker--something that has been impossible
> (with few exceptions) for the average woodworker for over 150 years.
>
> Begat
>
> On Dec 2, 6:13 pm, Ron Taylor <rontaylor1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was the chief inspector for Westland Helicopters hydraulics division for
>> about 10 years. This particular division had been owned by a turner and
>> sold to Westland after about 20 years of trading and it was almost
>> unbelievable the extent to which plans and jigs had been made in order to
>> allow the products to be manufactured on a lathe!! After about 1 year,
>> product planning and manufacturing processes had been modified to accept
>> other more suitable manufacturing methods. This makes me aware of how a
>> turner (or perhaps any other machinist) may be driven to make products in
>> a
>> way that may represent the one discipline that they are most familiar
>> with.
>> I can only say that I believe we should be open to changes, updates and
>> improvements to our disciplines and not to be hidebound by that to which
>> we
>> are most familiar. Change may be difficult to accept, or it may be
>> something we can't afford, but I believe we should all be open to change
>> and try to enjoy the fact that the next generation of woodworkers may have
>> many methods not open to ourselves. Lets all enjoy our hobbies and
>> businesses and learn all we can of the new disciplines as they arrive just
>> for the fun of it.. That's my 5 cents for what it's worth.
>> Ron.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 3:45 PM, begatbrown <darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com>*
>> *wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hello,
>>
>> > Now, that's something I did not understand. So most people turn
>> > primarily for pleasure? Now, I do understand this better.
>>
>> > I have seen bowls and vases that are absolute pieces of art, and I can
>> > see people who want to do everything with a single device and one they
>> > can more easily afford. Okay.
>>
>> > Begat
>>
>> > On Dec 2, 3:54 pm, Myck Rych <mckrc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Turners seem to be purists. I am a turner & am not. I use the tool >
>> > that
>> > > best does what I want to achieve. I have a 900 and that is enuf for >
>> > me. I
>> > > think it was worth the $$. Most turners do not, as they want quick
>> > projects
>> > > and make it from a blown down tree. I sold my turnings for 25 yrs & >
>> > the
>> > > mill made my work stand out. Most folks don't sell. They give away to
>> > > family & friends. So the cost of a mill seems very very high to them.
>>
>> > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:19 PM, begatbrown > > <
>> darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com
>> > >wrote:
>>
>> > > > Why anyone who does woodworking with a power tool has a problem with
>> > > > an ornamental mill is beyond me. I do get why folks who do
>> > > > traditional turning can look down on the lack of physical risk > >
>> > taking
>> > > > with ornamental mill users just as airplane pilots who fly without
>> > > > wind shields can think less of those who pilot planes with > > >
>> windshields
>> > > > and jet engines.
>>
>> > > > Limitations notwithstanding, the ability to turn stock AND work flat
>> > > > stock makes ornamental mills worth the while. One of the reasons I
>> > > > to
>> > > > replace my 900 with an 1800 is that it is a eight-foot overhead > >
>> > router
>> > > > as well as a column maker. Anyone who has less than an 8 inch > > >
>> jointer
>> > > > should want a legacy for jointing alone. With a 8inch costing > > >
>> between
>> > > > $2K and $3K, a legacy is a deal. I have surfaced 10 inch and 11 inch
>> > > > wide boards that a 3K jointer could not have helped me with.
>>
>> > > > The pictures on the legacy woodworking site showing what the
>> > > > ornamental mills can do speak for themselves. The only shame is that
>> > > > the bigger machines did not have enough of a market to continue > >
>> > their
>> > > > production.
>>
>> > > > Begat
>>
>> > > > On Dec 1, 9:09 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> > > > > There's some good links in there.
>>
>> > > > > Has anyone else noticed that the Legacy products are either not >
>> > > > well
>> > > > known
>> > > > > in turning circles or people think they cost too much and would >
>> > > > not
>> > be a
>> > > > > useful tool? There also seem to be some bias towards the items
>> > created
>> > > > on
>> > > > > our mills as not being hand crafted. I would go so far to say the
>> > latest
>> > > > > cnc rage suffers from the same stigma. It seems people cannot
>> > appreciate
>> > > > > the skills involved with our style of products and capabilities.
>> > They
>> > > > > discount all preparation and design work and think the machine
>> did > > > > it
>> > > > all.
>>
>> > > > > -Tim
>>
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "begatbrown" <darylmichaelsc...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <
>> > legacy-ornamental-mills@**googlegroups.com<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
>> >
>> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:59 AM
>> > > > > Subject: Interesting Turning Club Article on Legacy Machine
>>
>> > > > > > Hello All,
>>
>> > > > > > Here's a link to a turning club article on a member who has an
>> > > > > > ornamental mill. This site also has lots of other links. Really
>> > > > > > wanted to pass that along too. There's an article on the revo
>> > linked
>> > > > > > to this site as well.
>>
>> >http://www.dupdf.info/view.**php?id=zvwoodturners.org/**
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