Hello Mac
Thank you for the offer, I own a compleat set now from 1/8" up to 1-5/8" 
(inside dia.) diamond hole saws. I was trying to find a good source for the 
group to buy them. ( that is if thay want to use the same technique of burning 
rings in there wood projects.)  besides burning rings in a pattern  like what I 
did on the dummy, I have also have made them in a linking chain series of cuts, 
very much like a rope pattern but done with these hole saws.   The rings are 
just a way of figuring out how to do something a little different. I can go 
into detail if you or anyone want me to explain how its done.

Gota get back to work now.
C.A.G.





----- Original Message -----
From: mwfos...@earthlink.net
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:30:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Some pix's of todays project. (Re-send)

Curt,
I took those pics - the bits are mine.  The packet w/2 bits came from Harbor 
Fright Tools (HFT) a while back.  The other, made by Bosch, is of higher 
quality and lasts longer.  It is actually my wife's - she uses it on some 
crafts she does.  It was somewhere in the neighborhood of $30. (Grainger has it 
for $78! - they are way off.)
If you'd like, I can check w/the HFT store near me to see if they have the 
bits.  I can let you know how much they are and if you want, I can buy & mail 
to you.
Have a great day.
Mac



-----Original Message----- 
From: curt george 
Sent: Apr 7, 2013 7:50 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Some pix's of todays project. (Re-send) 


Hello Mac
Those do look like what I have. and will work for you. if you buy them.
 
After talking about this with Tim. We are in agreement, that buying a diamond 
or carbide hole saw may not be the only way to do this. If you can find a 1/4" 
or 1/2" holesaw arbor that will fit onto your router, then you can grind/cut 
off the teeth of any hole saw and just use the body of the saw to make the 
burring/cut.  I have not tried it myself. but in theory by using this method 
you can have almost unlimited sizes evaluable to you for just a few dollars 
per.  
The Key here is balance,the hole saw can "NOT" have "ANY" wobble in it, at 
10,000rpm -24,000rpm if there is any play in it, It could be dangerous, that's 
why I like these hole saws, There is no play, wobble,or vibration, when you 
turn on the router its almost like there is nothing in the chuck,and when you 
lower the bit down (slowly) there is no bite or grab to them, so they cut/burn 
evenly and cleanly with no tare out at all.
The hole saws do not realy cut, its friction that causes the cutting /buring.
What is also very Kool, is if you use these cutters just off center of the 
wood, you can then come up with other patterns like ( ) or )( can be made the 
very same way just by off setting the Y axis and or the router/indexing. there 
are many possibilitys here.
 
Good find Mac. and thank you .
talk to you ( all ) latter.
Have a good day.
C.A.G.

----- Original Message ----- 
From:mwfos...@earthlink.net
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: Some pix's of todays project. (Re-send)

Curt,
I'm resending - I don't think the photos got transmitted.
Mac

-----Original Message----- 
From: curt george 
Sent: Apr 6, 2013 8:09 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some pix's of todays project. 


Hello Mac
I'm sorry,that I don't have a lot of info. on these hole saws, they came in a 
pack of 4 the small one is appx. 1/4" (inside dia.) and the large one is 3/4".( 
these hole saws do not have an pilot bits) thay were in the diamond/carbide 
tools eara. I can not find the stock number, and thay are not on the harbor 
fright web site.  
I tried to use wayback, on there web site, It did not work. but this hole saws 
were on there web site and I bought them just about a year ago.  
I will keep on looking.
 
Have a great day.
C.A.G.

----- Original Message ----- 
From:mwfos...@earthlink.net
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: Some pix's of todays project.

Curt,
I have a Harbor Fright Tools store near where we live in VA.  If you describe 
the cutters and provide the HFT stock number - I will be glad to go check our 
store for them.  There's a chance the store may have some "new old stock" on 
hand.  If you can include a pic of the tool and package (if you still have it), 
that would be a help - but not essential.
Mac



-----Original Message----- 
From: curt george 
Sent: Apr 5, 2013 8:15 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Some pix's of todays project. 


Hello Bill 
It looks like Harbor fright stopped selling the set that I bought from them. 
but here is the Kitts. 
http://kittstools.securesites.net/cgi-bin/sc/productsearch.cgi?storeid=*242a6eb914c5d8376f8d0e50fdbe6907b1513ef6
 link. as far as I see it, any 1/4" or 1/2" shank carbide or diamond hole saw 
bits would work. the carbide or diamond dose not cut the wood well, but it dose 
burn the shape Easly. ;-) since I'm only going just past the surface  I don't 
think it matters how well it cuts wood, Think of it like, using a wire to burn 
a line across a  wood spindle on a lathe. (the wire doesn't cut the wood it 
builds up heat and then burns the wood. these hole saws do pretty much the same 
thing.) and in my case since I am using the same plunge set up, all that I 
needed to do was use the same holes on the index plate to center my rings, I 
thought it worked out pretty well.  (Its Quick, Easy, and Something that noone 
here has done yet.) I LIKE IT!  ;-)
talk to you all latter.
C.A.G.

----- Original Message ----- 
From:Bill Bulkeley
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 7:44 PM
Subject: RE: Some pix's of todays project.



Great job curt can you post a pic of the hole saw you used
Bill



From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of curt george
Sent: Saturday, 6 April 2013 7:44 AM
To: Legacy Google group
Subject: Some pix's of todays project.


Hello All

today I was able to Almost complete the Wooden Man Dummy that I started two 
days ago, The log is maple, just under 10" dia.  37" tall, I cut down the tree 
about 15 years ago, so I think its dry enough to work with now. ;-p

Everything is pretty straight forward, after hand planning and some cutting of 
the wood, to make it fit onto the Legacy , I then turned the body round. As a 
detail that I like to do, I added a head dress to the top of the Mook Jong, 
Every Mook Jong that I made I add some kind of detail to is to make it somewhat 
different. The large bead on the top is 2 1/4" wide, and the rings were 
cut/burned with a set of diamond hole saw's three saws and the gear index were 
used to make the detail. the outer rings are a 2", the large inside rings were 
cut with a 1 1//2" and the smaller inside was cut with a 1/2" hole saw.

I like these hole saws, they do not have any tare out of the wood, the full 
circle keeps the router/cutter balanced. (there is not vibration at all with 
these bits.)  The only way that I know of how to do this kind of cutting would 
be with a fly cutter, and those have a problem with both vibration as well as 
tare out. So I think that this hole saw solution is a good one. The hole saws 
have a 1/4" shank and are mounted in the router with the used of a reducer 
collets, I bought my two sets of hole saws at Harbor Fright, and Kitts 
Industrial tools. 

Today I am finishing off the stand to hold the body and I've added a Pecan 
stain to the body.  I will take a few more pictures of the finished piece 
latter.



Have a good day all.

Now back to My play time. ;-) ( I have a lot more things that I want to get 
done before I have to go back to work, Monday.)

C.A.G.






 


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