Hi Begat Someone mentioned earlier in the week about the lights being on at Legacy, not only were they on they were reading this blog and have responded in a round about way!
It just goes to prove that they are not growing mushrooms in Springville Utah 24 hours a day! Regards Euro Roger From: Louis Brown Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 2:28 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Legacy CNC Arty 58" for $6500 in Syracuse, NY Hello All, It appears that someone at Legacy has been reading this thread. They have just sent out an email that links to videos that show what makes a legacy machine different and better than the other cnc. https://blu169.mail.live.com/default.aspx?id=64855&owa=1&owasuffix=owa%2f#n=1402689052&fid=1&mid=7027c163-89ee-11e3-9150-002481888dd4&fv=1 Begat On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Arkady Paka <arkadyp...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Roger. Do ypu mean CONCAM 4.11 is only for sale to Legacy CNC customers or to Legacy manual Mill customers ( who upgraded his manual Milll to CNC by himself) too? Arkady. 2014-01-29 Louis Brown <bega...@gmail.com> Hello All, Legacy's promotional videos are right in their claims about the turning axes (A & B) on their machines versus others. I don't know if anyone here has watched them all carefully, but I did and checked around with the other companies with a 4th axis. And legacy would be crazy to lose their advantage by selling conversational cam as a stand alone product. Given the slow process of carving a turned leg, you would be much better off buying a used 900\1200\1800. They would allow you to turn four table legs before you could carve one. On the Arty 58, four legs can be milled in less than 90 minutes. Begat On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Jeff Becker <jwb...@windstream.net> wrote: I am under the impression that axis refers to the moving points in the machine. I have also been told that Shop bot has a mill that will allow the head to move in 5 directions plus the x and y. Shop bot also offers a way to turn spindles, I am not sure if you would be able to do a taper or not. From others I have spoken with I do feel Legacy is the easiest to program anything using the A and B axis, I have also been asked if conversational cam would with other machines, I am told Legacy will only sell it to people with a Legacy. From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stan Shuford Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:11 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Legacy CNC Arty 58" for $6500 in Syracuse, NY You're right Bill, you can program a CNC to do a taper without tilting. It would take a lot longer to do and would generally require more sanding. As Mike said, working on a level part makes a big difference allowing the use of router bit profiles as well as rope and barley twists. The are several machines with a 4th axis and it is possible to add a 4th axis to a 3 axis machine but, as for as I know, Legacy has the only 5 axis machines. The 5th (tilt) axis is really easy to use with Legacy's CCAM software. Stan Shuford s...@shuford.com On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Bill Bulkeley <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: I don’t know that much about cnc but if you have a mill that is cnc and does not taper couldn’t it be written into the program rather than tilting the bed or is the 5th axis the turning spindle forgive my ignorance Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Louis Brown Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2014 5:16 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Legacy CNC Arty 58" for $6500 in Syracuse, NY Hello Mac, There is not CNC mill with a 5th axis (which does tapering), except a Legacy. Good luck with finding one with a fourth axis that can do a five inch 54 inch post that is not taking forever by carving the spindle. (The legacy promotional videos are still accurate from what I can see.) You can find a better price on a 3 axis machine that's used and you can put one together for much less that does a good number of things better. The only thing better would be the latest arty 58, which has a 9 inch turning diameter. Begat On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Roger P <rhp...@googlemail.com> wrote: Hi Mac I will let the keeper of the multi-coloured book answer but to me $6500.00 for a machine that cost $11,525.00 (it is the router version and not the spindle) that is a snip. Plus the man is prepared to throw in some bits and the computer and some instruction. It is a great machine and we would describe the build quality as “built like brick ----house” or rock solid. Euro Roger From: mwfos...@earthlink.net Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:32 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Legacy CNC Arty 58" for $6500 in Syracuse, NY When it comes to the CNC machine "Used Mills" market, I would not know a "Good" deal from a "Bad" deal. (Within reason of course. If my neighbor listed his 1 year old Legacy CNC for $1,500 - I'd recognize that as a "GREAT" deal!) Tim, are you the Keeper of the CNC "Red Book"? (Started to say Blue Book. Since that's probably trademarked, I chose Red Book - as in Legacy Red. You must have to know a LOT of details about the specific CNC machine you are looking at to be able to calculate whether the price on a used unit is fair. Mac -----Original Message----- From: CURTIS GEORGE Sent: Jan 28, 2014 5:42 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Legacy CNC Arty 58" for $6500 in Syracuse, NY Wow! that dose look Pretty good ! 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