i agree totally with your thinking, absolutely...my perspective though, 
comes from a different point of view...as a business owner in the 
woodworking field, it is to the benefit of the shop to give the men easy, 
usable equipment...if i was retired or just doing this kind of work as a 
second income or hobby, i would definitely be building a lot of "toys" 
myself...personally, i would rather build the somewhat "exotic" pieces, 
like a multi-router, but business sense dictates i buy the equipment rather 
than spend the man hours to build it in house...but i applaud the 
creativity and ingenuity of anyone who builds a piece like this pantograph 
router...one of the reasons i take my mods to certain extremes is i am a 
bit of a frustrated builder myself...anyway, it is all good and look 
forward to anything else that is along these lines...keep it 
coming!...thanks...joe

On Monday, January 5, 2015 6:11:40 PM UTC-5, Ccm Ccm wrote:
>
> Joe, I would jump on a Jds in a second if I came across one. my point is 
> don't sell the pantorouter short, my experience with
> It is that it works very well for many types of joints if you take the 
> time to make proper sized templates for it, and it only  cost me 
> About Fifteen dollars and a couple of days time to make it
>
> On Monday, January 5, 2015, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> you are correct, it does have the third axis...but it is a bit awkward as 
>> to how it would work in unison with the other two axis'...we use our jds 
>> for so much more than just mortise and tenon work...to the point that 
>> sometimes two people need to work all three axis' at one time...anyway, 
>> this pantorouter looks like a very good piece for the money they are 
>> charging...but if you should ever come across a jds for a reasonable price, 
>> buy it!, you will not be disappointed...joe
>>
>> On Sunday, January 4, 2015 12:59:39 PM UTC-5, Ccm Ccm wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Joe,the pantorouter has all three axis, it really is a very neat 
>>> machine it takes a little fiddling around
>>> to get the template the right size for a good fit but once you have it, 
>>> it will give you very consistent results,
>>> i used it to cut all the tenons in the attached picture for a mahogany 
>>> gate they all fit  the mortices perfectly​
>>>  20140725_102043.jpg 
>>> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0ffQhsFBzONcW4xUWpOTGlJQm9jM0g0djN4R2xXY1pmaE1r/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>> ​​
>>>  IMG_0201.JPG 
>>> <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0ffQhsFBzONOHlyQUdRd2VZV0U/edit?usp=drive_web>
>>> ​  
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 7:21 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
>>> <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the concept of what this can do is excellent, but it is only working on 
>>>> two axis', "Z" and "Y"...here is a link of a piece we have in the shop and 
>>>> have been using for 30 years...http://jdstools.com/
>>>> multi-router.aspx...works all three axis', all on linear 
>>>> slides...templates for dovetails,finger joinery and other types of 
>>>> joints...only problem is it retails for $2,700.00!!!!...i rarely see these 
>>>> on ebay or craigslist and if i do, never for less than $1,500!...guys just 
>>>> don't want to give them up...the piece jeff is referring to is excellent 
>>>> for the price that it is being sold for...just surprised that the maker 
>>>> did 
>>>> not work in the third axis...for a bit more money, it would certainly be 
>>>> worth it...but i would definitely recommend it to any woodworker...great 
>>>> addition...joe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, January 3, 2015 7:48:33 PM UTC-5, Love to turn in Oregon 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if you all have seen this or not. Great concept router.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://woodgears.ca/pantorouter/kuldeep/buy.html 
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff W
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