Good morning everyone. Thanks for the info on the Vacuum idea. 

As far as the glue up goes, the Silicon sand (white sand) I have a salt shaker 
in the shop filled with sand, Ive been using it for appx. 10 years, and the 
shacker has not been refilled yet. you dont want to use a lot of sand when 
gluing your projects. Just a dash (perhaps a pinch is would be better, Kitchen 
measurements here.)(a very little bit.) ;-) is all it takes to keep the boards 
for sliding away. 

Have a great weekend everyone. 
C.A.G. 

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From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" <legacym...@iglide.net> 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 11:21:10 AM 
Subject: Re: All I want For Christmas 

If you pull a full vacuum you are pressing down with over 2000 pounds per 
square foot 

On 12/11/2015 10:07 AM, maxmd wrote: 



In answer to the glue bag, I found a butyl rubber RV roof used of course 
patched the holes and use an old medical vacuum and appropriate hoses valves 
etc 
Max 


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From: CURTIS GEORGE 
Date:12/11/2015 9:00 AM (GMT-06:00) 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: All I want For Christmas 

Hello Everyone. 
along the lines of glue up's and clamping I thought I would add a few tricks to 
help everyone out when doing large glue up's 

When gluing large mutable layers, the glue can make the wood slide and shift 
when applying the clamps. I was taught to sprinkle some white sand on to the 
ends for the boards. the sand will keep the boards form shifting while 
clamping, and can easily be cut off after the glue has tried. (if need be, I 
have never had any problems using this technique i the past, Note a very little 
sand is needed.) 

and when I do small glue ups, I use a dollar store rubber spatula to spread the 
glue, Its like frosting a cake, The spatula spreads the glue nicely, (better 
than a brush.) And once done, I just let the glue dry on the spatula, the 
rubber/soft plastic of the spatula is something that the glue can not stick to 
,and will comes off in seconds. No fuss or muss. ;-) 
for large glue up's I use a paint roller... it spreads the glue fast, its not 
exactly a clean job, but when time is waiting, its the best way to get the 
boards glued together. (at least in my book!) 


NOW here is an idea that I was thinking about last night when working on a 
vacuum pump. 
this is only a idea, Has anyone here tried this? using a heavy plastic bag and 
a vacuum to do your clamping of wood? I know that air our air pressure would be 
enough to hold the wood firmly in place while the glue is drying. It might even 
force the glue deeper into the wood, for a better bond ???? The glue would not 
stick to the plastic,making a easer clean up. I would think something like this 
could work for anyone doing glue up's, it would be quick and easy to do, if you 
have the right equipment. And I think it just might be cheaper than buying 600+ 
clamps? (any takers on this idea?) 

C.A.G. 


From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" <legacym...@iglide.net> 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 10:30:41 AM 
Subject: Re: All I want For Christmas 

Very large jobs move faster with more clamps. If you only have a few clamps, 
you spend all your time waiting for the glue to dry. That is not time 
effective. By the time the I finish with my last set of clamps, the first set 
has had enough time to be removed and used again. From that point it is just a 
matter of cycling clamps onto new boards and taking the cured boards to the 
next work station. Creates constant work and is very effective. When you do 
this for a living, you don't want to keep the customer waiting. 

Mike 
OK 

On 12/8/2015 1:02 AM, Александр Ткач wrote: 

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Why do so many clamps ? A lesser amount. 






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