I personally like the morse taper., how hard would it be to make awhole assembly to swap out.
On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Bill Bulkeley <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > I personally want the Morse taper id rather cut some holes in the headstock > to fit the ball bearings > > > > Bill > > > > From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE > Sent: Friday, 22 April 2016 10:13 PM > > > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: New legacy headstock > > > > Hello and Good morning all. > > It looks like this topic is going to die out very quickly. > > So before It dose. I would like to know what others think about the idea of > getting ride of the #2 MT part of the head-stock. > > I know its a very nice element to have for adapting form the lathe. But for > my self this is one element that I just don't use all that often, The > threads on the 1x8" shaft I use a lot, but other than that, a new indexing > hub adapter could be made easily. My idea is to make everything smaller so > that those people out there who have the old plastic bushings can replace > what they have, with ball-bearings. > > When I made my head-stock I used two flange ball-bearing sets to hold my old > head-stock this worked out find for me, But its far from a perfect way of > fixing the problem. I know that somewhere, out there someone sells perhaps > some needle bearing that could be used to replace the bushings I just did > not spend enough time looking for them. > > So far I know that two people in our group want new head-stocks for there > machines, I was wondering how many more out there think that this idea could > be viable for us to , at least think about? > > When I made my head-stock, Legacy did not make/sell a ball-bearing > head-stock, Latter they did, but Today??? I don't know if they will? since > the manual machine market is all but gone. > > As in all things, (the OLD saying goes ) "there is always more then one > way to skin a cat." But this Cat, could become a Mountain Lion. Is it worth > the trouble? Just curious? what do you think? > > C.A.G. > > ________________________________ > > From: "CURTIS GEORGE" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:16:22 PM > Subject: Re: New legacy headstock > > > > Hello again Max > > The headstock that I made back then is still working fine, I have never > needed to remake it an its still working well today. > > Although having said that, I have done some thinking about how to make a > smaller and better looking headstock for my machine, I just had the need or > the time to do it. > > The Deldrin bearing just were to ... (I don't know the words? Perhaps ? > light duty for my needs.) > > If I was going to make a new headstock for my machine I would go with a > smaller shaft and get rid of the MT#2 insert part. Perhaps a 1x8 thread by > 3/4" shaft. grind the shaft down to the headstock gears and tap the hole for > the screw. this could be done easily enough by almost any metal lathe > worker. and then you could use smaller thrust bearing and center shaft > bearings, leaving the room for the locking pin. (which my headstock dose not > have.) The best part with this idea, all the parts could be found at any > hardware store thought out the US. > > > > You could use an Alum. block (or even some kind of solid plastic block. ) > for the main body, make the ends fit the Legacy rails. and then, run your > tail-stock into the block to get your center point. form there its just some > drilling and setting the bearings. I think it will be pretty easy to do. > > Woops! I'm out of time. (my break in now over.) > > Talk to you more about this idea latter. > > C.A.G. > > ________________________________ > > From: "MAX LATHAM" <ma...@hotmail.com> > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 6:40:37 PM > Subject: RE: New legacy headstock > > > > Thanks so much for the reply and consideration. The Morse taper is not the > problem, I just put too much pressure on the spindle from the foot stock end > by fixing the transverse bar holding the foot stock, then closing the hold > down lever hoping to drive the foot stock center into the wood, which proved > too hard to receive the metal impression. > Then while milling the C-ring was forced out of its groove causing > the shaft to seize and stopping the operation. > Now, I have replaced everything back, reassembled the unit, mounted > the work piece (looser this time) and finished milling. > Present goal is to replace the Deldrin bearings with ball bearings. > There is an old thread by Curtis in which he posted photos of his upgrade > which is very interesting. What I'm trying to learn, Has there been any > improvement to his 7/13/05 post > ( > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/legacy-ornamental-mills/$20head$20stock$20bearing|sort:relevance/legacy-ornamental-mills/j5Pr8euYmDw/ZgG_U7hFJIIJ > )? > ( Of course I'm content with replacing the plastic that is the > original design if that turns out to be the recommendation.) > > > > Thanks > Max > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 18:01:39 -0400 > From: curtgeo...@wowway.com > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: New legacy headstock > > > > Hello Max > > If I understand you correctly, the #2 MT shaft is stuck inside the headstock > spindle? > > If so. there are a few different ways to un-seize it. > > The easiest way to do so, is the spray some penetrating oil (PB-laster or WD > 40 should do the trick.) inside the shaft, through the screw hole in the > back of the shaft. after letting it sit for a while, you can tap the #2 MT > with a long screwdriver or steel rod to free it up. > > Another way is to hold on to the shaft with a pair of channel locks and then > try to turn the indexing hut adaptor some, with another set/ wrench. > > If those two ways don't work for you, the only thing to do is remove the > shaft form the headstock. then you can add some heat. (I said some! don't > try to get the shaft red hot, just enough to make the metal expand, the oil/ > lub. should do the rest.) to the shaft, just heat the shaft and try again to > tap the indexing hub out of the shaft. > > > > Once you get it out, there are a few way to keep it working well. the first > is, buy form Legacy a hub adaptor lock. (I cant find the link now, but its a > double lock shaft collar the locks the 1x8 threads and the #2MT together > with a set screw.) > > > > If you don't want to buy anything new, I would clean the MT shaft with steel > wool, then add a piece of wax paper to the shaft before setting the MT#2 > inside its socket again. > > > > I wish you luck on this one, I do remember your question before, and had > hoped you got your machine freed up already. > > > > Talk to you more latter. > > Have a good night. > > C.A.G. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: "max" <ma...@hotmail.com> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 4:50:05 PM > Subject: New legacy headstock > > > > I've tried to post on the original discussion but being unable prompts this; > > > > Any refinements since this posting? I ran our a clip ring while turning a 6" > hexagonal post and seized the shaft in the head stock. 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