​Hi Russ I will reiterate what I have said a number of times before about why Legacy dropped the manual machines. Just before the last recession came along Legacy brought out the CNC up-grade kits for the 900 , 1200 etc. I know this for a fact because I picked Andy Anderson up at the airport complete with his red neck luggage, two cardboard cartoons containing the up-grade kit for the machine we were exhibiting in London two days after he arrived. When the recession hit guess what happened, hobbyist stopped buying and businesses looked at CNC as a survival tool. That's basically what happened and as they say the rest is either history or the present time! Also whilst I think of it the competitor machine, I use the word loosely, certainly stopped selling their machine in the UK. Trend was the UK competitor and Sears was the US machinediscussions I have had with them confirm that they sold a lot but a large percentage were assembled, tried out and then put on the top shelf out the way in the workshop or shed. Cheers Roger
​ ​ From: russ veinot Received: 07/01/2018 19:41:42 +00:00 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills OK, I gotta put my 3 cents worth in here. first about Curt's observations (and thanks for that Curt). It would be nice to see more participation here but I am not surprised it isn't more active. Most people would rather watch from afar (my Youtuybe channel is the same way) and I understand that. I have, in the past, gone years without saying anything (but still watched) and now I'm sure some wish for the good ole days :>) I just enjoy being here when I can contribute I will. That's all I expect from anyone. Second, as to the original question by Bill (it's you fault I am even talking here Bill :>), I also believe the timing of that video is more than a coincidence. Also I have to say that video is a good presentation, not salesmanship. There is a difference between acting and selling. I would say that a true salesman can sell a freezer to an eskimo in the dead of winter. Which brings me to a point I have heard here that I disagree with. the original LOM (before CNC) is a good product and it still can stand on its own merits in the business world. I keep hearing that the LOM was a losing product line and that is why they switched to CNC. Building market share is only one aspect of successful business. Engineering flaws, bad manufacturing methods, or/and poor customer service can bring a good company (or idea) to its knees. I would say that the Edsel is a classic example of that. I still believe there is a market for manual LOMs as well as CNC. thanks again Bill for bringing this up. Russ On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 7:24:11 PM UTC-6, aussiman wrote: I wonder if our little chat with legacy planted the seeds for the idea of this latest legacy video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik-11XkFfGM&feature=em-uploademail [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik-11XkFfGM&feature=em-uploademail] it is actually a interesting video on the company shows just how far they have come now. their move to cnc really kept them going and growing in this modern age. I sure wish I could afford one Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com]. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills [https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout [https://groups.google.com/d/optout]. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
