The agreement stemmed from the concerns of competition from others in the market. The router bits that Magnate sell are Legacy's designs and only manufactured by Magnate. Having the profiles out there in dxf format simply makes it too easy to copy them. At least this was part of the original conversation that lead to the agreement. It may be time to possibly renegotiate?
If you contact Tracy Anderson at Legacy and ask for the router bit profiles in cad format, you can find free cad programs to make your own templates with the bits you own. Do you have a paper or CD/DVD catalog from Magnate? They have very clear dimensions of each Legacy bit they sell. You could draw each profile with that information. I realize this is not easy. I'll give Tracy or Andy next week and see what the current thought process is. Tim On Aug 30, 2018, 5:09 PM, at 5:09 PM, view...@gmail.com wrote: >So-o-o. If you can't get the design kit anywhere and you have an >agreement >with Legacy not to put it out on line and they won't sell it to those >with >manual machines (ie they want someone to call them for a cad >version???) >what are people who just got manual legacy ornamental mills supposed to > >do? I do my own drawing having learned engineering drawing while >developing my patternmaking skills. I don't use cad. Seems odd to me >that >Legacy controls who can get Magnate cutter profiles. Obviously you have > >reasons for the agreement with Tracy. Seems to me though that they >should >be more willing to help out historical owners of legacy manual mills >and >users groups if it is something they have readily available. What am I > >misising?. > > at 8:06:20 PM UTC-4, Tim wrote: >> >> I had an agreement with Tracy Anderson to not distribute the router >bit >> profiles in this group. He wanted anyone in the group that is >interested >> in the profiles in cad format to contact him. We need to honor this >> agreement until otherwise instructed. >> >> Tim >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Bawdsey64 <rhp...@gmail.com ><javascript:>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Èb;Hi Ray >>> >>> The Legacy Design Kit comprised one to one profile templates of many >of >>> the Magnate Cutters, and they were on three or four clear plastic >sheets so >>> you could draw straight on to graph paper (supplied by Legacy). >>> >>> The plastic templates were bought in and when Legacy were unable to >get >>> the plastic sheets produced out of house they did have a set of the >>> profiles in an industry graphics format so you could draw using >something >>> like Coral Draw. The reason they stopped selling the product was >that their >>> supplier's Laser packed up and the Laser that the company bought to >replace >>> their old one burnt the plastic sheet when producing the Legacy >Templates >>> as it was much higher powered. >>> >>> Someone in the group should have that graphics package. >>> >>> Now I do not have it as sold my business, which was selling Legacy >>> products in Europe, and I do not have a Legacy machine. If you have >no >>> luck finding the graphics package get back to me and i will see if I >have >>> it on an old computer or someone I know has it. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Roger in UK >>> >>> Èb; >>> >>> >>> Èb; >>> From: Ray Leaman >>> Received: 28/08/2018 22:55:50 +01:00 >>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >>> Thanks for your reply Dexter. So the design kit was for making a >>> "drawing" on paper of what the stock will look like once cut rather >than >>> applying it to the stock per se. I assume it was for spindle >turning for >>> the most part? >>> >>> Are the Magnate profiles on the attachment you sent full size or >scaled >>> down? >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:35 PM, Dexter Bland <dexte...@gmail.com >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>> Ray, >>> A design kit is no longer available from Legacy or anywhere that I >am >>> aware of. It was a clear set of templates of the router shapes that >Magnate >>> sells that you could use to draw out the cuts on scaled paper to >refine >>> your design. You could then use your drawing to lay out your cuts on >the >>> machine. 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