Hi Tim
Going into uncharted waters is what makes life interesting Bit of spring 
steel should do it The Revo is about all I can manage at my age. Better 
than churning out bowl after bowl  etc. etc. etc.on ordinary lathes
Thanks for the reply and of course the TK 
Richard

On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 6:57:10 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>
> When I created my version, I thought making an adjustment larger than an 
> inch of offset was pretty radical compared to previous ornamental machines. 
> Now I see you want to really twist things up!
>
> To make that happen you would need to adjust the offset an even larger 
> amount than what I designed it for.  You would have to make a longer 
> connecting rod naturally.  You may run into binding of the rod. Your going 
> into uncharted waters my friend.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Richard Ellis <rchrd...@gmail.com <javascript:>> 
> Date: 8/27/19 9:36 AM (GMT-08:00) 
> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> 
>
> Subject: Re: milling waves curts wave attachment 
>
> Tim
> I should have said higher waves and not longer in other words more stormy 
> at sea ! !!!!!!!!MY mistake
> Richard
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 5:32:52 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>
>> No, it will not make a change. What you will see by changing to a duplex 
>> gear with a. Different tooth count will result in the number of waves per 
>> pitch. It's been too long for me to remember the number of waves per 
>> pitch.  I think using the standard duplex you would get 4 waves per pitch 
>> and the 2x would be two waves per pitch.  Don't hold me to those numbers!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Richard Ellis <rchrd...@gmail.com> 
>> Date: 8/27/19 7:19 AM (GMT-08:00) 
>> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>> Subject: Re: milling waves curts wave attachment 
>>
>> Hi Tim
>> Do you think it will do the longer waves just by making a longer piston 
>> rod.
>> Richard
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 2:43:30 PM UTC+1, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a quick response to my reciprocate.  I never intended the 
>>> attachment to be used with any other gear than the standard duplex gear.  
>>> When I did make a long pitched wave I used my poormans duplex gear that was 
>>> made up of stock legacy gears in between the leadscrew and the duplex gear.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Samsung tablet
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> 
>>> Date: 8/27/19 5:57 AM (GMT-08:00) 
>>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com 
>>> Subject: Re: milling waves curts wave attachment 
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning.
>>> Richard. 
>>> I have not used Tim's version of the wave attachment, If you say its no 
>>> possible, I will have to take your word on it.  So On to the next step. How 
>>> can we make it do what you want?
>>> I was hoping that with the videos and pictures, people in our group 
>>> would start to see, How easy the attachment really is, and Thus start 
>>> looking to make there own versions.
>>>
>>> I made a version years ago that was spring loaded, and I used two steel 
>>> saw blades for my lock and adjustment, The teeth (or the saw blade) were my 
>>> lock and since the  teeth were all uniformed, My hope would be that this 
>>> jig would  be more accurate . sadly it really wasn't any better then what I 
>>> had made before. so I keep on looking. the attachment that I show/ use 
>>> today, is my third attempt,on making the wave attachment.
>>> If you like I can look and see if I still have the photo's of the older 
>>> versions? I am sure I still have some, but I can not find them at this min. 
>>> ( I am not sure where to find the old files?) the center hub was the only 
>>> thing that changed over the years.  My first version had screw holes in the 
>>> center hub, the second was the saw blade teeth, and the third was what I 
>>> showed you.
>>>
>>> I can go into more latter.
>>> but at this time I need to stop.
>>> Have a good day.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 03:17:17 AM EDT, Richard Ellis <
>>> rchrd...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Curt
>>> Regarding the TK not being able to do a very large wave  with the 2X. I 
>>> will make a longer piston rod.
>>> On the picture that Bill put up of the different types of Wave 
>>> makers----------- the pic of the TK would not work as shown (I know it was 
>>> only a Pic) but it would not be possible to have that wave pitch ,The 
>>> plastic block with magnet would get in the way. Certainly with the 2X gear.
>>> I have been thinking of making a paper template to stick to the Duplex 
>>> with differing angles on it to make Waves out of sync . and not just the D 
>>> & A
>>> Richard  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 6:35:46 AM UTC+1, Curt George wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey guy.
>>> One more small note.
>>> on my D&A cut video https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=KCQ2OcYlQcs 
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCQ2OcYlQcs> I showed another way to 
>>> get the drive arm off of the center , by making two marks, one on the 
>>> opposite sides of the duplex gear before you turn,  Sometimes it is more 
>>> the why, then the how. needs to be understood.
>>>
>>> In the beginning of this concept, Tim modified the idea form an OT book, 
>>> and made it work on the Legacy,  Both Bill and I (with-out seeing Tim's 
>>> attachment,on his machine.) We both copied the idea for our own Legacy's.  
>>> We all did the same thing, but each attachment looks very different form 
>>> what the others had made.
>>>
>>> In my last video I was attempting to show how/why it works.( another 
>>> view of the concept) as you can see, there is almost always more then one 
>>> way to get the job done...
>>> Have a good night everyone.
>>>
>>> C.A.G.
>>> On Tuesday, August 27, 2019, 12:08:46 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy 
>>> Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone.  Just got home form work.
>>>
>>> Its nice to see all those Old pixs Bill.
>>> Here are a few of mine as well...
>>>
>>> depending on the router bit, and the wave modulation there are many 
>>> different looks you can achieve.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> C.A.G.[image: Inline image]
>>> . 
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 26, 2019, 11:10:37 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler <
>>> timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>
>>>
>>> thats pretty awsome.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 4:14 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is a few experimental waves 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@ 
>>> googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 August 2019 3:17 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: milling waves curts wave attachment
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Wow those are cool. I really need to create one of those.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 11:52 AM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Pps  here is a pic I dug up of wave pens I did with the wave attachment 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@ 
>>> googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 August 2019 12:53 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: milling waves curts wave attachment
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Ps I don’t have any pics of my finished wav attachment lost them in the 
>>> fire only my prototype pics also no disassembled pics tim does of his and 
>>> curts can be seen from his pic
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@ 
>>> googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *bulk...@mmnet.com.au
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 August 2019 12:16 AM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* RE: milling waves curts wave attachment
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Mine (green), curts  and tims  wave attachments   I made mine to fit a 
>>> revo and a 900 mills 
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@ 
>>> googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>> *Sent:* Monday, 26 August 2019 9:26 PM
>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@ googlegroups.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: milling waves curts wave attachment
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Good job on the video again. Thanks you guys and if possible we could 
>>> use some pics close up of individual parts 
>>>
>>> along with some dimensions of these attachments for making the wave. 
>>>
>>> Tim, Curtis, Bill? I would like to see each of yours if possible?
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>
>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>>>
>>> 14171 160th Ave.
>>>
>>> Foreston MN 56330
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> 320-294-5798 shop
>>>
>>> 320-630-2243 cell
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 2:10 AM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another video by curt   *https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs 
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6hnOHYgXs>*
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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