Arkady, I did ask about selling to people who had a Legacy machine and just needed the software. They are going to look into it but said it may be more than a week before I hear back. If I hear any good news, I'll let you know.
Tracy On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:51 PM Arkady Paka <arkadyp...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tracy. > Thank you for info. But it is very very sadly. My old dream about upgrade > my lom to CNC is impossible. > Arkady from Ukraine. > > пт, 11 дек. 2020 г., 23:37 Tracy Smith <trlsmit...@gmail.com>: > >> Hi Arkady, >> >> I just talked to someone at Legacy. They don't sell Conversational CAM by >> itself. It is sold only with the CNC machines. >> >> Sorry, >> Tracy >> >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 4:48 AM Arkady Paka <arkadyp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Tracy. >>> Thank you very much. It is difficult to me to call Legacy by myself >>> because my English is very poor for real time conversation. Please ask >>> Legasy how much CCAM costs and what way I will got it. Maybe usb flashcard >>> or online download. >>> Arkady from Ukraine. >>> >>> пт, 11 дек. 2020 г., 06:46 Tracy Smith <trlsmit...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Hi Arkady, >>>> >>>> I don't know for sure but would think Legacy would have no problem >>>> selling that software to you. I can't imagine why it would be an issue. >>>> I've bought several used machines and have been to their office many times >>>> to buy some of the parts the machines were missing. If you were really >>>> serious, I wouldn't mind calling them and getting more information for you >>>> if you like. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Tracy >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 11:26 AM Arkady Paka <arkadyp...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Tracy. You said to Ray it possible to buy CCAM from Legacy. If I >>>>> will upgrade my LOM to CNC by myself can I buy CCAM or it possible >>>>> registered users only. >>>>> Arkady from Ukraine. >>>>> >>>>> пт, 4 дек. 2020 г., 04:36 Ray Leaman <view...@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for responding. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ray >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 6:24 AM <igiudi...@twcny.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have my setup running with an AVID CNC control box. I use MACH 4 >>>>>>> ESS to control it. Program in Vcarve pro, and export .txt files. Great >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> get you started with the rotary. The CCAM works with that setup too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------- >>>>>>> From: "Ray Leaman" >>>>>>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Cc: >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday December 2 2020 10:03:20PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Code Used for the Legacy CNC Upgrade Kit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for picking up on this post Tracy. Your comments is >>>>>>> definitely helpful. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I was looking to find out what software Legacy used for the upgrade >>>>>>> kit when they put it out. Given how long ago that software came out and >>>>>>> how fast software development moves I wondered if someone had found an >>>>>>> update that was compatible with or run the CNC upgrade system. I was >>>>>>> fishing in other words. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since my earlier post my research turned up a little more on what I >>>>>>> was seeking. Legacy used an OM5 Control Software and as >>>>>>> you indicated Conversational Cam. Users needed to download an Install >>>>>>> Program to a desktop (their recommendation at the time; 32 bit version) >>>>>>> from www.artsoftcontrols.com. Then you needed to download a >>>>>>> Mach3exe.file from Legacy's site, and save that directly into the >>>>>>> Mach3/folder. To complete the installation properly it was necessary to >>>>>>> download three (3) more files: Performance OM5 RevC.set; Performance >>>>>>> Screen Sets folder; and Performance CNC R&P.xml. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Finally the software operating System for the OM5 interface was >>>>>>> Microsoft Windows XP; Vista; or Windows 7. Apparently this was also >>>>>>> used >>>>>>> for their Arty and Artisan units back when they first started coming >>>>>>> out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not sure if the software is or is not the same for the Standard >>>>>>> and Performance CNC Upgrade Kits. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not an IT guy. Does the above sound correct given your >>>>>>> understanding? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ray >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 7:14 PM Tracy Smith <trlsmit...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ray, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you mean by "what code was used"? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Legacy uses the software Conversational Cam to design the spindles >>>>>>>> and that program creates the Gcode for the CNC machines. This >>>>>>>> (Conversational Cam) is unique to Legacy. The Gcode is then loaded into >>>>>>>> Mach 3 (or other versions) and Mach 3 is what processes the Gcode to >>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>> the CNC. When I got my CNC Performance Upgraded model 1200, I spent >>>>>>>> about 2 >>>>>>>> weeks fiddling with it to get it to work. It was hours looking at very >>>>>>>> old >>>>>>>> web forums and lots of careful trial and error. I'm an IT guys so for >>>>>>>> me it >>>>>>>> was a lot of fun and I was very happy when I got everything working. >>>>>>>> It was >>>>>>>> definitely a challenge and there was little that was straightforward >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> it. The biggest problem was figuring out how to get modern software to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> aware of and talk to the "old" Legacy CNC machine. I couldn't coach >>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>> on how to repeat what I did. I would have to go through and figure it >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> out again. I did a ton of spindle work once I got it all working but >>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>> been over 1.5 years since I did anything. I plan to do more work next >>>>>>>> year >>>>>>>> so will I will be forced to refresh myself on the process. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am happy to help if I can but be prepared :). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regarding question 2, I believe technically, you could use any >>>>>>>> software that produces gcode. There is a different to doing CNC work >>>>>>>> on a >>>>>>>> flat surface as compared to a round rotating surface. I would image you >>>>>>>> could buy the current version of Conversational Cam from Legacy and it >>>>>>>> would still create workable gcode for you. The challenge will be the >>>>>>>> tools >>>>>>>> used to process the gcode and actually "talks" to your machine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope that helps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Tracy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 8:37 AM Ray Leaman <view...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do any users of the CNC Performance Upgrade Kit here know what >>>>>>>>> code was used at the time the kit was sold initially? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Secondly, is that kit's software updatable for compatibility with >>>>>>>>> say today's CAM/CAD or other software packages? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In other words can the original kit software be updated? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ray >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to >>>>>>>>> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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