Hello Everyone I was asked to show some more of how I cut my bone disks.
C.A.G. On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 4:45:46 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: > Awesome! Good Job Richard. > > Im sure Mike will be pleased that someone is using his method's . ;-) > (that is besides me.) ;-p > > C.A.G. > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 11:30:36 AM EST, Richard Ellis < > rchrd....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Curtis > Yes I can understand the dust problem. I have just made these small boxes > out of Yew wood, It got to me upset my breathing, and I shall be more > careful when I make the lids, keep the mask on for a longer time. The 3/8 > box joints were made using Mike's indexing method. They were a very good > and tight fit. With no adjustment re: fit > All the best > Richard > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 1:24:08 AM UTC Curt George wrote: > > Hello Mac. > > As a matter of fact I have. > But instead of re-using my bone dust, I want to buy bone meal, and mix > that with epoxy. It just might give me the look I want with just 1/2 of > the mess. ;-) > > Sorta like the crushed pecan shell statues that use to be so popular some > 10 yrs ago. (Once glued and pressed, the pecan shells looked like wood. > with a beautiful color and all around they looked like they were hand > carved, by a master wood carver.) > Bone meal just might do the same? > Mac. you are welcome to try it. I have to many things on my plate at this > time to try. > > Lastly, About the bone dust in the video. As long as the dust is not AIR > born is offers no threat, I will need to mask up again when its time to > clean up the shop, I have bone dust in every corner of the shop. (I made a > mess and did not bother to clean up...) > > "O" one more short note. Bone dust is good for plants, if mixed in the > soil. That's were all my fine sawdust and bone dust will end up. (In my > Mother In-law's garden.) "Only the finest for family.) ;-) > > Have a good night. > > C.A.G. > > On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 07:45:32 PM EST, M.W.Foscue < > mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Curtis, > In the great video you made - showing us your various steps - you made > mention to be sure to mask up and not breath the "bonedust" - as you > touched a pile of it. > Have you thought about "recycling" it? Take a big pile of it, fold it > into some epoxy, and pack it into a mold. Then when the epoxy is cured, > "slice it & dice it" as needed. If you make the mold in a cylinder shape > you will be several steps ahead of the game. > Just my 3ยข worth. > Mac > ------------------------------ > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Jan 2, 2021 5:11 PM > To: "legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com" > Subject: Re: Bone turning 101. > > Thank you Birgitte. > > I will save this idea for latter research. Playing around with acid? > > My fear is the acid (much like boiling the bone.) Will weaken the bone > and make it un-useable. > I have Cola at home, It couldn't hurt to try this idea, I can see how it > effects the bone. > > My goal is the bend the bone (flatten it) so I can use it. If the bone > looses its properties and becomes soft or brittle, or badly stained, I cant > use it. > > My hope is by the use of ??? I can make the bone, or put into a plastic > state where it can be flattened, and latter it will retain its original > hardness and luster, it my goal. > > I am hoping the ammonia will do this. and after flat, My hope is the > ammonia will evaporate and leave the bone strong and solid/ usable for > turning. > > Have a good day. > > C.A.G. > ------------------------------ > On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 03:57:35 PM EST, Brigitte Graham < > brigitte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You can soften bone by soaking in hydrochloric acid. Also Cola, but I > suspect that the tannins(?) in Cola would discolour the bone. > By soaking the bone in an acid, you are removing the inorganic material > from the bone, and it might sort of de-nature it, > it might not 'work' in the same way? > Legacy Widow > ------------------------------ > On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 19:28, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > So far the only ways that I can flatten out a bone is to cut and the sand > the bone. > > I have also found if I use carpet tape, (thin double sided tape) I mount a > flat side of the bone (or bones), onto a solid Alum bar, and then sand the > parts true. So I can get a number of disks all the same thickness and true > to each-other. making it much better for glue up. (and it helps me keep my > fingers form getting sanded/burned while sanding small parts.) > I use a 12" circler sanding disk for this process, the bar I use is 1 > 1/2"x 1 1/4"x 14" long. I can mount 8-12 bone disks on to this bar, This > trick works well for me. > > SIDE Note. > Mounting onto an Alum. bar. I have not tried this yet, although I have > read about it and I know Mike P. has used this idea... > > By using blue painters tape. you can stick the tape on the bar, and then > using CA glue and accelerator you can, glue the tape's back side to > another, blue painters tape. > the two tapes are mounted onto the bar and part. the glue hold the two > tapes together. The benefit of using this method, is EASY clean up, the > tape holds the work in place, but will easy to remove from both the bar and > the part. > > I hope to try this method out for my self latter? > > If Anyone can find a way to make bone soft enough to bend... I would > very much like to hear about it. > > I just read about bending Ivory, they give two methods, one hot water. > (dose not work for bone.) and the other using Ammonia. (un-known if it will > work.) > Perhaps Ammonia and bone in a pressure pot??? and some flat plates that > can to clamped together, to flatten out the bone? NOW the notes did not > say if the liquid or gas is what effects the ivory. It looks like this > will be something that I need to try? > > That's all that I have on this topic, at this time. ;-) > > Take care. > > C.A.G. > ------------------------------ > On Friday, January 1, 2021, 11:34:37 PM EST, Tim Ziegler < > timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have an Oliver tractor that should flatten them lol. > sorry Curtis I had to say it. > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > ------------------------------ > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 2:22 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > All that I can tell you is that Vinegar DOSE NOT. after soaking some bone > in Vinegar for over a month, it did break down the bone some and made a > slimy mess, but the bone was not any softer... So strike one on this > count. ;-) > > I read about flattening horn and bone. the author said steam will soften > the hone and bone to make them pliable. steam dose work on horn, but It did > not work with the bone I tried... > NO other ideas on this point so far. Just wanted to let you all know what > Ive read and tried my self. > > C.A.G. > ------------------------------ > On Friday, January 1, 2021, 12:45:20 PM EST, Okla Mike (Liltwisted) < > legac...@iglide.net> wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is anything that will make bone rubbery? I know > an eggshell gets rubbery in vinegar. Then each slab could be pressed flat > and cured then worked. Merry New Years > > Mike OK > ------------------------------ > > On 1/1/2021 5:43 AM, Tim Ziegler wrote: > > Yes Sir all you can do. looking forward to more. > Happy New Year Curt. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > ------------------------------ > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 11:05 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Yes I do. but I found that there is a small problem using this method. > Bone is very hard, the bandsaw blade once it gets dull tends to wander. by > hand I can adjust to the wander, the fence cannot do that, NOW I know that > I can adjust for the wander... but it more work for me to adjust... I dont > think it will be any easer for me ... > > I know that there are other ways to get the job done, I just need to > figure what way works best for me. I will try the fence again. > I was thinking of trying an jig saw mounted under a board. This method may > let me cut the bone on only one side, so I could quarter it as Mac. > suggested. Perhaps just using the "OLD School" approach and just use a > hand saw might be just as easy? > > Its a trial and error process. I will keep trying. and let you know what > I find out. > > Have a good night. > > Happy New Year! > > C.A.G. > ------------------------------ > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 09:45:28 AM EST, Tim Ziegler < > timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Curtis do you have a band saw w/fence? > Push sticks and a good band saw can split a lot of material safely. > > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > ------------------------------ > > On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 8:41 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Good morning everyone. > > Mac. You are right If I cut into smaller segments It would give me less > waist. but the question is how to do that? > cutting the bone in half is pretty easy to do with the band saw. how would > you cut a round bone into thirds safely ? > I did not go into the cutting much, but for smaller bones I hot melt glue > into a piece of wood so I do not have to get my figures close to the > sawblade. I guess if I hot melt the bone onto a block of wood, if made > small enough I could cut on the edges (cutting into the center, as if it > was standing in the edge.) I think I will try that, the next time. > Thanks for the suggestion, Mac > > Have a good day. > > see you all latter. > > C.A.G. > ------------------------------ > On Thursday, December 31, 2020, 01:57:10 AM EST, M.W.Foscue < > mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Curtis, > EXCELLENT Video! Great close-ups when needed and you spoke very clearly > and at a good pace. Very easy to understand! > You answered all the questions I asked earlier - showing them in the > video. This made it all "come together" and I completely understand your > process. > Regarding getting more "disks" out of your pieces of bone. Have you given > thought to cutting the sections of bone into thirds or quarters - vs > cutting the bone in half lengthwise? That could give you more efficient > use of the material. > Happy New Year. > Mac > ------------------------------ > > -----Original Message----- > From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > Sent: Dec 30, 2020 10:28 PM > To: Legacy ornamental mills > Subject: Bone turning 101. > > Hello Everyone. > Today I was able to make another video for you all. Bill posted it to his > You-tube page for me. (so we could Show the group the video.) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ7gn-shVYA&feature=youtu.be > > This is just an over view. I would like to do another video latter. but I > thought this one would be good enough to start with. I tried to cover most > of the points, on how I work with bone. > > Please let me know what you think? > > I am finding bone to be a fun product to work with. > I hope other with in our group will as well, in the future. > > C.A.G. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/82669012.4527.1609634729524%40wamui-gaston.atl.sa.earthlink.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/82669012.4527.1609634729524%40wamui-gaston.atl.sa.earthlink.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/bb49e568-0e1e-4688-9b2c-84f595e813f4n%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/bb49e568-0e1e-4688-9b2c-84f595e813f4n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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