Re: for beginners

Mon, 22 Feb 2021 22:57:14 -0800

Thank you!
I clicked on Ray's link again - and it took me to the https: site (vs http:).
We appreciate your wonderful work.
Mac
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim
Sent: Feb 23, 2021 1:06 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: for beginners

The problem is fixed now. The link Ray provided is close to correct.  A "s" should be added to the beginning part. So it would be "https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/index.html".  The reason I say close is the server should re-route you to the secured site if you don't use it. All of the error messages for anything security related, looks pretty scary , but I can assure you that my site is secure.

Thanks for letting me know.

On Monday, February 22, 2021 at 4:58:13 PM UTC-8 Va Oak wrote:
I use Firefox and could not access the link.
However, I was able to get the below link that Ray provided to open.  Is Ray's link the one that we were supposed to be seeing - or was it to a different web site all together?
If it appears to be a "browser issue" - then it is also a server or web site programmer issue as well.  Most sites run their content against all the major browsers to be sure they will work with what they designed the site to portray.  So, I suspect at least a part of the issue is with the technical side of the website that the site's author contracted out for technical management (not content management - which is what I assume Tim K. and Curtis do).  Refer to the error message I cut & pasted in an earlier reply (below) regarding "Transport Layer Security" (TLS).  That's technical (vs content related).

Thank you Tim, Curtis, and any others that are trying to get the issue(s) resolved.
We ALL appreciate it - very much.
Mac
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Leaman
Sent: Feb 22, 2021 3:03 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for beginners

If you all are talking about Art Ransom's archived site I have been getting into it throughout this discussion and rummaging around without any problems.  I have the site bookmarked at :


I'm running Windows 10  Home.

Ray

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 2:48 PM <artma...@comcast.net> wrote:

At this moment, it appears to be a browser issue. I can’t get to the site using firefox. There is no problem when using chrome.  Can anyone verify this?

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of wm.o....@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 6:12 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

 

Issue may not be with the website itself; but with the server on which it is hosted. You go through  the server security to get to the web site. Not something we can fix. How long has this been happening? They may get around to doing the security updates in a few days. Web site manager may want to contact server operator to alert them to the situation.

Bill

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 2:05 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

 

Bill,

Thanks - comforting to know that I am not "alone" with the challenge.

Mac

-----Original Message-----
From: wm.o....@gmail.com
Sent: Feb 19, 2021 4:12 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

I use Bitdefender security software on my computer and I am having the same issue accessing the website for the same reason. The security certificate for the site is outdated and needs to be updated by the host for secure access to the site. I can only access the site if I override my security software; generally not a good idea.

 

Bill Henry

 

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 1:30 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

 

I went into my Browser (Firefox) mothership's site and looked the "error message" up.

Here is what they have published for the issue I was having:

Appears to me that the "owner" of the website needs to do some "housekeeping".

When they do, I should be able to log intotha site with no problaems.

Thanks.

Mac

Website issues

TLS version unsupported

Some websites try using outdated (no longer secure) Transport Layer Security (TLS) mechanisms in an attempt to secure your connection. Firefox protects you by preventing navigation to such sites if there is a problem in securely establishing a connection. Contact the owners of the website and ask them to update their TLS version to a version that is still current and still secure.

Starting in Firefox version 78, the minimum TLS version allowed by default is TLS 1.2. Websites that don't support TLS version 1.2 or higher will display a Secure Connection Failed error page with Error code: SSL_ERROR_UNSUPPORTED_VERSION and a message that This website might not support the TLS 1.2 protocol, which is the minimum version supported by Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Feb 18, 2021 10:55 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

Very funny guys very funny lol😊

Seriously mac it could be your email provider I cant ever email you off the group it just will never work its been like that for many months now you have missed out on so much stuff.

Every body else works just not to you

 

Bill

From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2021 2:28 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for beginners

 

yea lol for sure at best sand flea's or fire ants right. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

 

 

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 9:18 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Ya never know what might come out of Australia.

They have marsupials - you know!

Kangaroos, Wallabies, wombats, and Koala and CocaCola Bears abound!!

No telling what kind of "bugs" they've got!

Mac

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Feb 18, 2021 10:11 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for beginners

Hopefully we didn't pick up a bug some how?

But it opened right up for me?

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 8:03 PM Harvey Matyas <hmaty...@gmail.com> wrote:

I got the same error, it has to do with certificates or something like that.  I told my virus software to ignore it and it worked.

It didn't like it but it works,

 

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 7:51 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Bill,

 

I tried the below link you sent to the turningaround site.  No luck.

Here is what I get on the Error Page:

Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to ornamentalmills.com. Peer’s Certificate has been revoked.

Error code: SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE

    The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
    Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

Am I the only one having this problem?

Thanks.

Mac

-----Original Message-----
From: bulk...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Feb 18, 2021 6:25 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: for beginners

This link is for all newbees we all know it but new to the legacy may not

 

https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/index.html

 

lots of browsing here

 

Bill



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