RE: "TurningAround" website - Split block modification - by Brian Slater

Tue, 23 Feb 2021 09:31:12 -0800

Bill,
YES!  That idea for the "cleaning up - for better performance" video will be Greatly appreciated.  I am sure you will hit on points that most of us overlook (or didn't think of/know about).
Thanks - looking forward to its Premier Showing!  Hopefully we will get "Invitations".
Stay cool!
Mac
-----Original Message-----
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Feb 23, 2021 4:00 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "TurningAround" website - Split block modification - by Brian Slater

I have never had that split nut problem probably because I have never had my saddles stiff

And yes you nearly always have to adjust the mill to get it sliding easaly, another thing to watch as you know curt

Is a build-up of dust in between the top hats you have to remove one of them and slide the saddle out of the way to vacuum the trapped dust out. I must do a video on this some time.

 

Bill

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2021 4:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "TurningAround" website - Split block modification - by Brian Slater

 

Hello Mac

Just to add a little bit to Bills story.

I remember talking to Brian about this...

The problem was the split nut would slip out of the acme screw while cutting. This has happened to me a few times in the early years of me using my Legacy, as well.

There were a few problems that were not addressed at this time. For me the split nut, slipping was due more to the slides of the carriage being to hard to move, that and heavy cuts of the router at the same time that caused the split nut to pull out of the threads of the acme screw. 

but  Brian's thoughts were at the time, to keep the slip nut locked into place on the screw by use of the pins. And it worked for him.

 

For me I find that the slip nut slipping to be a safety measure of sorts. I have had a few (very few) mess ups in the past years, where the motor limit switch did not turn the motor off when the carriage hit its manual stop.  at that time I was very glad to see, my machine did not tear its self apart when this happened. When the tork become to much, the slip nut dis-engaged saving my machine form damage.

 

A funny part of this story happened, a few months after.  When Mike Pung came over my shop, I told him of the problems that I was having. I told him I did everything that the book said to do. He then asked me it I have adjusted the carriage locking screws? I told him NO, the book said those were factory set, and I should NOT touch them. "Well" Mike said, let me try this, He loosened the screws and then re-tightened them back down, By re-adjusting those screws he removed a slight pinching of the slides that I had, The release of tension ,letting my carriage start moving the way it was meant to move. I didn't have any idea, on how much power it took to move my carriage, until after...  YOU see some times something fails and it was not the part failing, that was the problem, but something else all together. ;-)

 

Live and Learn. 

 

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

On Monday, February 22, 2021, 10:41:41 PM EST, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:

 

 

Some of the older split nuts didn’t have bits on the sides of them that slides on each side of the metal plate that the split nut sits and slides along witch made it a little more difficult to easily engage Bruce over came this problem with a metal pin . hope this explains it. and it’s the third from the left

 

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2021 2:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: "TurningAround" website - Split block modification - by Brian Slater

 

I'm changing the Subject line - so that any answers/discussion will be able to be found.

 

Question:  On the linked site (below) - go to the bottom row of images, then the second one in from the left. 

It is a Delrin® block that engages the Acme threaded rod:     Split block modification -  Brian Slater

My question:  Brian modified it - drilling and installing a steel pin. 

Can someone explain what he did and was trying to accomplish?

 

Anyone have any idea where Brian Slater is? 

Brian - are you lurking here - on The Group's postings?  If so, will you please explain your modification?

 

Thanks.

Mac

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Feb 22, 2021 9:14 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for beginners

Yup still pops right up

On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 7:33 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:

The sight is working for me again I can see every thing again go try it every body and see if its working for you all

https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/index.html

 

Bill

 

At this moment, it appears to be a browser issue. I can’t get to the site using firefox. There is no problem when using chrome.  Can anyone verify this?

 

Issue may not be with the website itself; but with the server on which it is hosted. You go through  the server security to get to the web site. Not something we can fix. How long has this been happening? They may get around to doing the security updates in a few days. Web site manager may want to contact server operator to alert them to the situation.

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 2:05 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

 

Bill,

Thanks - comforting to know that I am not "alone" with the challenge.

Mac

-----Original Message-----
From: wm.o.he...@gmail.com
Sent: Feb 19, 2021 4:12 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

I use Bitdefender security software on my computer and I am having the same issue accessing the website for the same reason. The security certificate for the site is outdated and needs to be updated by the host for secure access to the site. I can only access the site if I override my security software; generally not a good idea.

 

Bill Henry

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.W.Foscue
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 1:30 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

 

I went into my Browser (Firefox) mothership's site and looked the "error message" up.

Here is what they have published for the issue I was having:

Appears to me that the "owner" of the website needs to do some "housekeeping".

When they do, I should be able to log intotha site with no problaems.

Thanks.

Mac

Website issues

TLS version unsupported

Some websites try using outdated (no longer secure) Transport Layer Security (TLS) mechanisms in an attempt to secure your connection. Firefox protects you by preventing navigation to such sites if there is a problem in securely establishing a connection. Contact the owners of the website and ask them to update their TLS version to a version that is still current and still secure.

Starting in Firefox version 78, the minimum TLS version allowed by default is TLS 1.2. Websites that don't support TLS version 1.2 or higher will display a Secure Connection Failed error page with Error code: SSL_ERROR_UNSUPPORTED_VERSION and a message that This website might not support the TLS 1.2 protocol, which is the minimum version supported by Firefox.

-----Original Message-----
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Feb 18, 2021 10:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: for beginners

Very funny guys very funny lol😊

Seriously mac it could be your email provider I cant ever email you off the group it just will never work its been like that for many months now you have missed out on so much stuff.

Every body else works just not to you

 

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Friday, 19 February 2021 2:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for beginners

 

yea lol for sure at best sand flea's or fire ants right. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 9:18 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Ya never know what might come out of Australia.

They have marsupials - you know!

Kangaroos, Wallabies, wombats, and Koala and CocaCola Bears abound!!

No telling what kind of "bugs" they've got!

Mac

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Ziegler
Sent: Feb 18, 2021 10:11 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: for beginners

Hopefully we didn't pick up a bug some how?

But it opened right up for me?

Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 8:03 PM Harvey Matyas <hmatyas0...@gmail.com> wrote:

I got the same error, it has to do with certificates or something like that.  I told my virus software to ignore it and it worked.

It didn't like it but it works,

 

On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 7:51 PM M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Bill,

 

I tried the below link you sent to the turningaround site.  No luck.

Here is what I get on the Error Page:

Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to ornamentalmills.com. Peer’s Certificate has been revoked.

Error code: SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE

    The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because the authenticity of the received data could not be verified.
    Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem.

Am I the only one having this problem?

Thanks.

Mac

-----Original Message-----
From: bulke...@mmnet.com.au
Sent: Feb 18, 2021 6:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: for beginners

This link is for all newbees we all know it but new to the legacy may not

 

https://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/index.html

 

lots of browsing here

 

Bill

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