Indeed I agree Jeff, I have my eyes on another one as well and put feelers out a few days back for parting out a machine. Not enough interest and the unit did not have what others wanted. I tried to explain the little shudder yesterday was just a speed search of what was out and about. Yes to much money but the search proved machines available.
Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 10:29 AM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree it’s a difficult thing to navigate those waters particularly since > the Legacy prices were originally pretty high for these “specialty” > machines. They provided impressive capabilities to the regular wood > enthusiast but are not as much a novelty as when they came out 25+ years > ago ( did I just say that? ) > > I still would buy another even for parts if the right deal came along. > 🤷♂️ > > > Jeff from Connecticut > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 19, 2022, at 10:40 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Good morning Tim. > > For the Price, Of ether of these machines, I don't think its worth it. I > don't want to belittle anyone,(including the sellers here.) But I feel the > prices are Just to high! > The sad thing is most people think all tools are worth lots of money, > Where the realty is most are worth the scrap steel prices of the day. > That old "Steely" I wouldn't go above $200.00 for what I see. Now that's > $1000 difference form what the seller wants. Most-likely it just isn't > going to happen! > > Now Again IF I had a need for it? And I was willing to put in another > $100. + into it, this machine could be up-graded/modified into something > very unique and well worth the $1200 price tag, to the right person... > (again being if the parts are all there.) What Im saying is its a Gamble, > If you role the dice (so to speak) Are you willing to loose, in the hopes > of winning? It could go ether way? ;-) > > Have a good day. > > C.A.G. > > > > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 06:42:06 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hey Curt, > > Basically we just did a speed search for LOM's that came up. Some could > not see them, others the > pic's were small. So I did some quick searches to show that somewhere out > there. > So we did not consult any of the seller's. Yes some are to high others are > meeeeeea. Not worth the money. > etc... > Kind Regards, > > Timothy J. Ziegler > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > 14171 160th Ave. > Foreston MN 56330 > > 320-294-5798 shop > 320-630-2243 cell > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 11:45 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills > <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hello Everyone. > > One word of advice. Look to see what you get/postings of sales, EXP. this > old 1000 mill "Steely" unit. posted earlier. > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/473213601346525/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A222cdf41-04d6-4b6d-aa26-12b4c5dd0c4f > $1200 > . > Dose this unit come with all the parts? What is shown is very little, Yes > there is a motor drive and stand, (Both PLUS'S in my book) But you *don't > *see the drive gears, what gear sets they have, and if there are any > extra parts? > This is a very old machine and it doesn't look like its in great > condition. NOW I'm not saying this is a bad deal, but for the money, It > doesn't look like a Great deal. Unless you know what you are dealing with, > this machine, Just may be a piece of junk. > I have bought two Wood Chuck mills for basically parts. nether of the > machine were useable, there were to many part missing. Neither of the > machine could be used. One seller knew it, and the other did not. > Now back to the $1200. Ouch! that is a lot of money, for a machine that > you can not buy parts for easily, You do not know if it even works? > Now let say this machine came with a 3 horse router, 20 router bits, 4 > gear sets ("Yes 4", Standard, .5 gear set, .25 gear reduction, X2 gear set. > All these gear sets were sold at the time of when Phantom/Legacy made this > machine.) ,and all 7 drive gears. It still may not be the right machine > for a new user? but at least I would know that, there is a possibility that > the person buying it could make something with it. > If I were a new user, the other posting of the 900 might be a better deal. > (but that too, did not state a lot.) More home work would be needed. But at > least you know it dose look more useable in the photo. You can see a router, > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/803403517658696/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A222cdf41-04d6-4b6d-aa26-12b4c5dd0c4f > > and it comes with a turn table... and this machine looks newer. (because > it is.) But there are still the same questions that need to be asked... > $1000 Is still a lot of money. You don't want to waist it. > > Wow! I did not mean to be so long winded here.(sorry!) I will just close > here by saying this... Homework, and a lot of study is always advisable. > when buying something that you see on the web. There could be some good > deals out there, but all to many are just people who are looking to make a > buck. Some don't know what they have and think it's worth a lot of money, > and other are looking to Just make a sale. despite having nothing but junk. > You need to be careful. > Remember the "Motto of the Yankee Trader". (Buy Beware!) > > C.A.G. > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 11:40:40 PM EDT, bulke...@mmnet.com.au < > bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > > Man is there a lot of gears in the 4x gears if you ever found a laser > cutting man I would have to send you a book full of printed templates lol > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 October 2022 2:20 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Newbie > > > > Yup I'm loooking for them too. > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 10:16 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > 4x gears grab them if you ever see them they are as rare as rocking horse > manure as far as I know in the only one who has a set > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jeff Richmond > *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 October 2022 2:04 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Newbie > > > > Sorry, I guess I am late to the conversation but I can do some searching > tomorrow and send links on the interesting ones. > > > > I typically try to check every week or two as I am still looking myself > for some items ( like a drive notor, vertical vise, and a 4X gear set ) > but some machine prices are way up there or are local pickup only in > another part of the country. > > > > The Model 200 that Curt picked up recently was one of the successful > searches for a reasonable price. > > > > > Jeff from Connecticut > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Oct 18, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > So as I find it I can send it to you. Otherwise Jeff you out there? > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 7:12 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > Being in Australia I cant do that it doesn’t work, can someone please post > direct links for me so I can > > See them > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing > *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 October 2022 7:35 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Newbie > > > > Actually they are on marketplace if you search all marketplace for lom 3 > come up. The $1200 one is mine that I'm apparently keeping now. > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 2:37 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hey rick if your not going after it post the link to it here > > Someone in the group might go after it > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Rick Boeing > *Sent:* Wednesday, 19 October 2022 5:27 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Newbie > > > > I have 2 now that I haven't even chucked a piece of wood into. I'll let > someone else get this one. > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 2:17 PM Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wow sounds to me like you should go after it? > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 1:01 PM Rick Boeing <rockwoodwork...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I'm in Cincinnati. > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 1:40 PM Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > How far are you from there? > > What state you in? > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 12:24 PM Rick Boeing <rockwoodwork...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > As soon as I dig them out of the rat hole I'll post some pics. There's a > small one on Cincinnati craigslist I saw yesterday. > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022, 11:03 AM Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Rick, > > > > You'll have to share some pix of your treasures. Word of advice don't sell > any. > > I own 8 of them and 6 are totally operational. Yes parts are hard to find > and I tend > > to buy the LOM's when they come up for sale. I have sold some parts but > tend to hang on > > to them as I'd rather have original then to have to fabricate something. > > so you mentioned servo motors do you have the CNC models? > > > > Look forward to seeing what you have. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 8:55 AM Rick Boeing <rockwoodwork...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hey guys thanks for having me in this group. I've wanted a lom ever since > they came out back in the day. It started with the craftsman routercrafter > along time ago. I picked one up about a year ago and joined the group. I > haven't had time to play with it yet but that's changing very soon. 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