Hoo boi, Curt. I've never seen an $800 screwdriver before. Those are gorgeous. (from this angle it's hard to see....might be chisels?) DanK
On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:55:02 AM UTC-5 Curt George wrote: > Hello Bill. > > I wanted to reply to Dan first. Mainly due to I don't have a good answer > for you. > I think I will work on some handles. Perhaps something like these. > We will see! > I am going to get reedy for bed now. > [image: Inline image] > Have a good night. > > C.A.G. > On Friday, December 2, 2022 at 12:47:42 AM EST, Curt George < > curt....@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hello Dan. > > That's a pretty neat story. > I am a big fan of Shop Smith ,I own two (an old ER, and a 510/520 > up-graded) That and The Legacy are my pride and joy's of my shop. > As far as your comments on the cutter. I am going to "TRY" to prove you > wrong. I feel that this cutter will not only remove the wood fast, but > using it properly I believe that I will be able to do a lot of detail work > on spindles as well. > I am making this comment mainly due to I have already done it in the past, > on my 1000ex. ( I am posting a few OLD Photo's of this process). It worked > very nicely, for me then. > I would also like to note. most OT work done is using a fly cutter > (universal cutting frame) which is appx. the same angle as these carbides > on my Veil cutter head. The only trick will be to control the depth of > cut, and proper pitch, for most OT type of work. That and proper alinement > of the template and the work piece. > the problems that I ran into on my Legacy were mainly fine > adjustment/control. > I am hoping that with a little practice with this 200 (My Supper 200!) I > will get the skill to achieve /make parts that I could only dream of making > just a few years ago. I feel the Trick will be two fold, One, I can now > make a much better template then what I could make then , Because I now > have the use of a laser to cut my template's, and back then everything was > cut by hand, (And honestly, my old templates were pretty bad, in comparison > to what I am making today.) The second factor for my boost, is the S200 its > self. (its smaller and easier to control then my 1000ex. was.) > Now if I fail, or succeed, I promise that you and the hole group will know > of the results. (and I don't like eating crow.! So I will do my very best, > here.) ;-) > > Have a good night. > > C.A.G. > > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 05:25:01 PM EST, Dan Krager < > cdkr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Wow, Curt. You put a lot of thought and effort into this. And the result > looks very professional. > > Since this is a copier, I can see the aggressive cutter making easy work > of it. But it is not capable of ropes and twists as shown, right? Not > needed in your case since you have other machines to do that. > > I'm curious. I see a Shopsmith lurking and since I bought my first > machine in 1973 I have pondered again and again about copier and rope twist > addons. Didn't have the knowledge or metal workshop to make it happen. > I'm just curious if anyone has pursued the idea. I did actually draft up > some detailed concept plans and sent them to Shopsmith with the hope they > would take the hint and run with it. Instead, they said thank you and sent > me a belt sander! I have long since sold that machine and all it's stuff > in favor of Fox Supershop, upon which I did successfully make a very > capable "automatic" form and detail copier using the power carriage feed. > Stopped short of ropes and twists because I couldn't (haven't yet) figure > out how to sync lateral travel with rotation. That's where Tony Fox was > headed when he got into financial trouble, moved to Canada, and ultimately > shut down the operation. Sad. Then Legacy showed up with it's very capable > ideas. I really like the open flexibility of it. > > All that to say thank you for setting a good example and high standard! > DanK > > On Thursday, December 1, 2022 at 2:31:22 PM UTC-5 aussiman wrote: > > Yes I agree thanks for all the feedback on your new toy I am looking > forward to you now producing > > Some really cool stuff on it what are you thinking of making first? Maybe > some fancy pens to see if its better than the > > Beall Pen Wizard which I think it defiantly will be > > > > Bill > > > > > > *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On > Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Thursday, 1 December 2022 10:55 PM > *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Legacy modal 200/ Supper 200 > > > > Thanks Curt for the feedback to all our comments and questions. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 12:04 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hello Everyone. > > Thank you all for the kind words. > > > > Bill . I'm not sure about bone on this yet? > > So far wood cuts so easily, its almost scary. > > The fine adjustment works well, (And so dose, all the extra parts that > I've made for this 200 so far,) But I need more time to get my skills up to > pair with this machine before I try to make anything important to me on > it. Its like all the other Legacy equipment that I own, there is a > learning curve that needs to be explored and understood before... But My > goal is to do a lot of fine work with this little machine, the template > follower will make using template work much easer then it is on my 1000ex. > And I am very Hopeful that, I and this machine will preform well, in future > projects. > > > > Jeff. I was going to keep this machine a secret until I get it working > the way I wanted it to. But with my work being so busy this time of year, > if I did it the way I had planed, I would almost have to become a lurker on > our own group page, there just is not enough time in a work week . I just > couldn't do it. ;-) > > > > Tim . Mike suggested that I make a counter balance for it. And He was > right! The counter balance off sets the weight of the z axis so nicely. > > I put two ball bearing sets in-between the two/three lead plates, this > bearing rides on the steel support bracket, It took me a few try's to get > it to work right, Trying to find the weight and keep it small enough to fit > the system. I am pretty happy with it, my self. Thank you. ;-) > > > > There is one more feature that I did not mention, This little machine can > grow if I need it to. I have two 5' Legacy rails and an Acme screw on > hand, Just in case I need this mill to make something larger. I don't see > that happening any time soon. but it still a possibility that is out there, > for the future. > > > > I made a video that is on Bill's web site two weeks ago. (before the > counter balance and fine adjustment were done.) > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WN3NV9okkk > > This is not one of the best video's that I've made, but it dose show some > of the possibility's on what this machine will be able to do. > > > > Talk to you all more latter. > > Have a good night Everyone[image: Inline image] > . > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 01:55:22 PM EST, <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: > > > > > > I think its great curt you have yourself a great little mill there now > capable of a great > > Many things is this going to be your go to mill for bone turning now and > other small > > projects? > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, 1 December 2022 3:15 AM > *To:* Legacy ornamental mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Legacy modal 200/ Supper 200 > > > > Hello Everyone. > > > > I just picked up a sweet little machine just over a month ago now. (that > I've wanted a 200 for many years now.) > > I've made a few modification to it, To make it work even better, For me. > > > > I didn't need to make any of these MOD's, but I wanted to make a better > machine/A way to do, the type of work I have been dreaming of doing for a > long time. I saw this machine as a very good starting point, for what I > wanted to do. > > > > I first added Legs to it, (taking the legs form an "Old" Wood Chuck mill.) > To make it a self standing machine. (I don't have any free counter space in > my shop.) > > I also modified the template follower, so I can use all my Templates that > I use on my lathe with this mill. > > Then I added a Angle Grinder (replacing the lam. router Legacy originally > used with this mill.) I also added a Veil copy lathe cutter, ( I off-set > the Z axis to make the clearance for this cutter.) > > THIS MOD, made this Little machine is now a Great Copy mill, (And it works > GREAT!) > > *But* ,I wanted something more then just a copy Mill, So I keep working > on some other ideas that I needed to make this into a "Supper" machine. > > I then added the Legacy's gearing system to it , (I figured, why not? I > can now, use all my gears and other Legacy attachment's on this mill.) > > > > I also added a counter balance system, for the Z axis, it now only takes > appx. 1.5 lbs. to lift and lower the z axis on the template. > > I also made a fine adjustment control to the Z axis/template follower. > (for better control on fine cuts, like roping and other cutting methods.) > > This project has taken me over a month to complete. (I still have a few, > little things to do, but its mostly done now.) > > To rap up this hole project, I then "Painted" all my parts, giving this > unit a finished look to it. > > (This combined with a very busy work schedule, Are the main reason's why > I've been a little quite on the group page this last month.) > > > > > > Please let me know what you think? > > I hope to show you all, some more work from This machine in the very near > future. > > Have a good day. 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