Hey Ralph, Yes and he is a tremendously nice guy. Ron and I have spoke as well. We discussed products and price points etc... Thanks for jumping in,, and hope to hear from you more. I am the one that shares his News letter. So much good stuff in there. Very positive News letter.
Please stay in touch. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 7:41 AM Ralph Thorne <ralphtho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm relatively new to the group and have been reading most of the posts. > > I've known Ron for more than 30 years and spoke to him this morning. He > wanted me to extend his thanks for sharing his emails. > > Did anyone know he makes a lot of his products with a Legacy cnc? > > Thanks, > Ralph > > On Monday, August 26, 2024 at 12:26:16 AM UTC-4 M.W.Foscue wrote: > >> To All, >> >> >> >> I know some of you in "The Group" get Ron Brown's emails. >> >> Tim has shared a couple recently. >> >> >> >> When I finally got around to reading this one - I thought "Holy Cow! >> This info is worth sharing - even though some (or most) of us know the info >> - it is all well worth seeing/reading again! Especially the info re: >> Sanding and Finishing. >> >> >> >> Enjoy! >> >> Mac >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> ------------------------------ >> >> -----Forwarded Message----- >> From: Ron Brown's Best, LLC <reply-36...@ronbrownsbest.addr2.com> >> Sent: Aug 17, 2024 3:00 AM >> To: <mwfo...@earthlink.net> >> Subject: Woodturning Newsletter - What's The Difference >> >> >> >> >> *The Difference Between Perfect And Good Enough* >> >> >> >> *Perfect Definition: “Having all the required or desirable elements, >> qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.”* >> >> >> >> In life, things are seldom perfect. When turning wooden objects, things >> are rarely perfect. I recommend that you strive to be better this time than >> last time. Three main areas within your control always make a huge >> difference in the final product and require surprisingly little extra >> effort. >> >> >> >> *Shape* >> >> Learning what shapes are pleasing is a lifelong quest for most of us. >> When you are making something for someone other than yourself, you have to >> consider the shape. It must be visually pleasing with the proper >> proportions. The curves must be fair and the separations must be sharp. >> >> >> >> A great way to develop an understanding of pleasing shapes is to study >> ceramics and glass vessels similar to the projects you undertake. There are >> tons of resources on classic shapes that have been around for centuries. >> There are good reasons for certain shapes to remain popular over the >> centuries. If you try to swim upstream for too long, you will soon tire and >> fail. >> >> >> >> *Sanding* >> >> This is an area most easily and quickly improved. >> >> 1) *Half a Grit*: if you start with 100 grit sandpaper, don’t go finer >> than 150 grit next. Then don’t go finer than 220 grit and so on. >> >> >> >> 2) Take time to *visually inspect* that all of the 100 grit scratches >> are removed before you finish with the 150 grit. If you don’t remove all of >> the scratches at each step, they will show through in the final finish. >> >> >> >> 3) I recommend using *compressed air* to blow off all of the sanding >> dust along with a strong raking light to inspect your work before moving to >> the next grit. If you are working with very hard wood i.e. ebony, cocobolo, >> African blackwood, padauk, acrylic, or epoxy, this is especially important. >> Take extra time to get it right now or you will have to do it over. >> >> >> >> 4) *NOTE*: I stop sanding wood at 320 grit. When using finer grits, >> friction can overheat the lignin in the wood and make it resistant to film >> finishes adhering to the surface causing the finish to fail much sooner. >> >> >> >> *Finish* >> >> 1) If you rush the finishing process, you will have ruined all your >> hard work. >> >> >> >> 2) Film finishes (lacquer, varnish, shellac, epoxy, friction >> finish-shellac) are more durable than wax finishes. But they take more time >> and effort. >> >> >> >> 3) Wax is a quick finish that will dull over time and need to be >> renewed either by reapplication or more buffing. Wax finishes are quick to >> apply and look shiny and sparkly in the short term. Wax is perfect for >> projects where saving time is important and the durability of the finish is >> of no significance. Wax or oil is mandatory for utility vessels such as >> salad bowls or kitchen utensils. >> >> >> >> 4) Multiple coats of lacquer (10 to 30) applied over several days and >> when allowed to cure for 30 or more days, can be polished to a brilliant >> mirror-like finish. This is the finish of choice for art and display-only >> pieces bringing top dollars such as in a gallery. >> >> >> >> Try to do better each time than the time before and you will quickly >> reach Master Status Skill Sets. Consider the end use for what you are >> making and decide how much time you can devote to making something perfect >> or just good enough. Remember that wherever you go, there you are. >> >> >> >> Here is my inspiration for this message: >> >> >> >> (2Sam 22:31 [AMP]) As for God, His way is perfect; the word of the Lord >> is tried. He is a Shield to all those who trust and take refuge in Him >> >> >> >> (Ps 19:7 [AMP]) The law of the Lord is perfect, restoring the [whole] >> person; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple >> >> >> >> (Ps 119:96 [AMP]) I have seen that everything [human] has its limits and >> end [no matter how extensive, noble, and excellent]; but Your commandment >> is exceedingly broad and extends without limits [into eternity]. >> >> >> >> (Phil 3:13-14 [NIV2]) Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet >> to have taken hold of it. 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