ok but simply put should not the Z axis be up and down, X & Y are either in
and out and left and right.
Correct?

Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 10:42 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Dan.  (I'm trying to find a good video or text answer to your question.
> but for now this is how I see it.)
>
> When I started doing woodworking, I was taught to use a
> story-stick/straight line transfer. Everything was taken form the same
> point/end on the stick. (X&Y used different marking)  Latter I got into
> drafting, again I took my measurements form one starting point on the
> paper.
> Years (many years) latter, I got into the machine trades and into
> pipefitting.  These same methods/ concepts, have worked very well for me,
> (X is horizontal and Y is victual from the point of reference,) Until I ran
> into computer controlled machinery. At this point I had to change my line
> of thinking SOME , and learn some new points of reference names, ( 0, and Z
> axis.)
> For me I still like the Straight line transfer methods, reading numbers
> like  .0001 (+or-. 0003) is for me a PAIN, and gives me a headache. ( a
> scribe/knife edge or punch is always a better way, then using a pencil or
> sharpie marker.) But who (or whom) can say which way is right?
> I guess you could say, the best method is one you understand and apply
> accurately.
> I hope this helps? (or in the very least, I don't muddy up the water for
> you.) ;-)
>
> Have a great day.
>
> C.A.G.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 10:36:10 AM EST, [email protected] <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> This raises a question.  What is the XYZ axis orientation commonly assumed
> for the legacy mills?
>
> In metal working, the XYZ coordinate system has a floating origin based
> upon the work. But the orientation is the same no matter where the origin
> is.  My math training orients the system so that the origin is at the left,
> X proceeds to the right, Y proceeds to the back, and Z proceeds upwards,
> all positive directions with negative on the other side of the origin
> respectively.  This led me to some confusion reading about metal lathe
> work.  From wherever the origin lies, usually somewhere along the
> centerline of the axis of workpiece revolution, X axis proceeds in positive
> direction away from user (towards the back), negative direction towards the
> user (front).  The Y axis proceeds left (negative) and right (positive).
> Thus, in metalworking, the X and Y axis appear interchanged from the math
> standard.  Milling operations use the math standard.
> DanK
> On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 7:26:45 AM UTC-5 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
> Very interesting concept for sure. I was just looking at my woodchuck and
> trying to
> determine how I might make a floating router attachment to follow a
> template too.
> Will see what happens as I have many other things on the radar.
> Thanks for sharing Curt and Mike thanks for the videos on your past
> experiences.
> Kind Regards,
>
> Timothy J. Ziegler
> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
> 14171 160th Ave.
> Foreston MN 56330
>
> 320-294-5798 shop
> 320-630-2243 cell
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 11:43 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone.
>
> Mike Pung made this video 7yrs ago.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh1JTcyLWOI
> X Axis Template follower.
>
> Awesome idea, and something that Other Legacy users might want to try.
> (Note: Mike is using a Wood Chuck Mill, but any Legacy mill could do the
> same thing, more or less with some simple MOD's.)
>
> Sometimes the simple things are Hard, and other times the hard things are
> simple. ;-)
> Thanks Mike.   This video is worth seeing again.[image: Inline image]
>
> C.A.G.
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