How do you get Legacy to create an .rtf file? -- I only see .txt .pdf. html and .bmp options??
Pat On Sun, October 15, 2006 14:05, Alastair Lack wrote: > Peter, > > I don't think anyone has asked for Legacy rtf or pdf output altered to > suit their needs. > > What we HAVE asked for is CONSISTENCY between the pdf and rtf outputs. > At present it is impossible to get any of the wordprocessors we have > looked at to import a rtf file and find that it is formatted the same > as the pdf file. > > If you try Word, the pictures are all over the place - some left > justified, some right, and the captions in a very curious format. > > In Open Office many of the pictures are not imported at all - just the > captions > > I've bought a copy of WP, and await its arrival to assess that. But > from the above it appear that the pictures are not consistently placed > there either. > > Regards > > Alastair > > > On 14/10/06, Peter Haughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Jennie, I have no problem with that at all, but it >> may be best to wait until someone says what the >> actual defaults for the picture import are. My >> WordPerfect has had its defaults so changed to >> suit ME that I'm sometimes not sure how it >> behaves for others. >> It would also be appropriate if at least someone >> says it actually helped them? <smile> >> >> I understand that some who complained about >> not being able to position or re-size images >> and/or caption those images in rtfs imported into >> WordPerfect (or Word for that matter) actually >> want Legacy rtf or pdf output altered to suit their >> needs. I'm happy that it is relatively easy to >> meet any needs I've seen expressed so far with >> the rtf imported into WordPerfect. So I'd far >> rather time was spent in providing an rtf version >> of Descendant Charts for example. But most >> people think charts have to have boxes, and it's >> too difficult to do boxes in rtf files. I don't >> use boxes, so please can I have an rtf when I >> don't choose boxes? >> >> Peter >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jennie >> > Goodwin >> > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 3:03 AM >> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RTFs, PDFs and layouts-Word vs WP| Now Image >> > placement in WordPerfect. >> > >> > >> > Peter: >> > >> > Would you consider sending this to Geoff to be >> > included in the Tips part of Legacy News? It is >> > certainly appropriate, and is also clear and >> > comprehensive. As I write this there have been no >> > corrections or additions submitted . . . >> > >> > Jennie >> > >> > --- Peter Haughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > I've now looked at how images in Legacy rtf file >> > > output >> > > are placed and imported into WordPerfect. To >> > > describe >> > > how you resize and position these images in >> > > WordPerfect >> > > I need several points/suggestions of introduction. >> > > >> > > I suggest you NEVER try to drag images to reposition >> > > or >> > > resize them. >> > > >> > > Images are placed in an "image box". When you click >> > > on >> > > the image and it is selected, you are selecting the >> > > box. >> > > >> > > The image box is located on the page in one of three >> > > ways: It is attached to a character, a paragraph, or >> > > a >> > > page. Unfortunately, the rtf input conversion >> > > chooses >> > > attachment to a character, which for nearly ALL uses >> > > is totally inappropriate. The conversion also sets >> > > the >> > > option that the image box changes the text line >> > > height >> > > to match the image box height. Consequently, you >> > > will >> > > never be able to get text to wrap, or reposition the >> > > image box. TO OVERCOME this POSITIONING, right- >> > > click on the image box, choose Position..., and >> > > change >> > > the Attach box to EITHER Paragraph or Page. Until >> > > you >> > > learn the consequences, I suggest you use Paragraph. >> > > Play with the Horizontal and Vertical position >> > > parameters >> > > to understand how they work. ALWAYS use these to >> > > move the image around. >> > > >> > > rtf import will (from what I have seen so far) set >> > > the >> > > image to its original size. >> > > Use Box Size (Right-click, choose Size...) to CHANGE >> > > THE SIZE of your image. Set EITHER the Width OR >> > > the Height, NOT BOTH. The other should always be set >> > > to Maintain proportions (unless you wish to >> > > specifically >> > > distort an image). The Full option will make the >> > > size of >> > > the image stretch to the full page margin width or >> > > height. >> > > To see the original size of the image, choose >> > > Maintain >> > > proportions for both width and height. >> > > >> > > From the right-click menu you can set borders on the >> > > image, how text wraps around it, the caption and >> > > where >> > > it is placed, and so on. Under the border/fill >> > > option, you >> > > can set the internal and external spacing in the >> > > image box, >> > > that is the space between the image and a border, >> > > and >> > > the spacing between the border and any wrapping >> > > text. >> > > >> > > Finally, if you do not like any of the defaults >> > > (like the >> > > border, box spacing, default size, ... you can edit >> > > the >> > > image box style to suit yourself. For example, I >> > > THINK >> > > inserted images by default come with some sort of >> > > border. I do not like this, and MY default is NO >> > > border, >> > > and my images come in that way. >> > > >> > > Good luck. Peter >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> > > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Behalf Of Peter >> > > > Haughton >> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:00 PM >> > > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> > > > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] RTFs, PDFs and >> > > layouts-Word vs WP >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I'd actually like to have the time to investigate >> > > how >> > > > an rtf file WITH images converts into WordPerfect, >> > > > but I don't. So I don't know how it positions the >> > > > images at all. In WP you should be able to right- >> > > > click on an image and choos from a list: position, >> > > > wrap, content, size ... and lots of others. >> > > > >> > > > I don't like the way the WP programmer(s) >> > > > wrote the rtf to wpd (WordPerfectDocument) text >> > > > conversion, but with a little knowledge of WP it's >> > > > easy to overcome to return to a standard form. >> > > > Placing images in existing text is easy. You can >> > > set >> > > > up WP with your own default preferences for the >> > > > attributes of the image when you insert it or >> > > paste >> > > > it in. And as you are having problems, overcome >> > > > them by doing it this way. >> > > > Peter >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > >> > > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > Behalf Of Alastair >> > > > > Lack >> > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:20 AM >> > > > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> > > > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RTFs, PDFs and >> > > layouts-Word vs WP >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Well, this is a problem I've been battling with >> > > also. Looking back at >> > > > > previous mails I see that Herb Palm wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > That's where you select the option, BUT my >> > > results when viewing the .rtf >> > > > > file in Word Perfect is less than desirable. >> > > Some pictures are in the >> > > > > middle of the page. Then every other one is >> > > tight against the left >> > > > > margin and difficult to move. Simply dragging >> > > would not do it. I had >> > > > > to put spaces in front of it making centering a >> > > hard thing to judge. >> > > > > One picture came out virtually big enough to >> > > fill the page margin >> > > > > to margin. >> > > > > My option - do it manually. It's easier than >> > > moving, resizing >> > > > > pictures. Beside you'd have to do some manual >> > > work anyway if you add >> > > > > more that one picture per individual anyway. >> > > > > I'd like to hear if it's a Word Perfect problem >> > > or does it behave the >> > > > > same way in Word also? >> > > > > >> > > > > I can tell you, Word is exactly the same. I'm in >> > > correspondence with >> > > > > the programmers about the location of pictures >> > > and reports in the RTF >> > > > > at present >> > > > > >> > > > > Regards Alastair Lack >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> >> To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> >> For online technical support, please visit >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> >> To unsubscribe please visit: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> > > > -- > > Warm regards :-) > > Alastair Lack > > > Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > For online technical support, please visit > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ For online technical support, please visit http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
