Gary,

My thoughts exactly!  One copy of each document is all that is needed as
long as you organize your files and reference them using the FILE ID in
Legacy.

Mary

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 7:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

A filing (or catalog) system, which includes the process of numbering
originals and digitial images, is just that---a "filing system".  It is
intended to catalog items for easy/effiicient retrieval.  It is not a
genealogy system to identify relationships---Legacy performs that
mission
quite well.  Expecting more from your file numbering system than where
an
item is located is fraught with unwieldy complications.

A simple acid test when considering file numbering systems is the number
of
copies needed of an original.  If more than one copy of an original is
needed, the system should be rethought.  Any numbering system which
contains
a name or is associated to an individual, by its nature will require
multiple copies when more than one person appears or is mentioned.
When
multiple copies begin appearing, your filing system has become
inefficient
and will eventually become ineffective.
Gary

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Loran
Braught
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 6:38 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Cc: Loran AAVBRAUGHT
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

As mentioned previously, I file almost everything using a basic
Ahnentafel
numbering system (not maps; they are by state/county, and not census;
they
are by year/state/county). The main advantages are filing by ancestry
(starting with #1 and working back each generation) rather than
descendancy;
plus easily identifying people by their generation relationship.
Ancestral
 recording generations from present back any ancestors is the logical
order
of researching.  All descendancy systems depend upon selecting one
ancestor
and start from that person recording to present . Another advantage is
seeing everyone as related to others of each generation (RIN/MRIN offer
no display of relationships) and depend entirely upon computer searching
(randomly scrambled in a file cabinet).
 
Even correspondence files can be stored or/and recorded by Ahnentafel;
then
sub-filed alphabetically by the name of the correspondence for that
Ahnentafel number. 
 
The disadvantages are seeing some descendants with long ID numbers (but
they still show relationship) and having to individually assigning the
correct (User ID in Legacy) Ahnentafel ID numbers. Maybe some day some
genealogy program will consider accommodating that entire numbering
system
to match the standard Ahnentafel numbers from every pedigree chart). 
 
In regard to  Photos; just organize the photo album by Ahnentafel
numbers. In the case of group photos I cross reference everyone in the
photo
to the eldest known direct line ancestor in that photo (of course this
means
that different surname albums are created).  
 
As for documents, the Ahnentafel numbers work just great, although I
separate notebooks of vitals from other documents and subdivide other
documents into major categories such as military, religious, occupation,
etc. to suit my needs (but all of those are in the same ahnentafel
numbered
notebook for that surname. 
 
Incidentally, I also use the basic color coding for surnames to keep my
paternal direct surname line files, notebooks, and photo albums in blue,
etc.  
 
Finally I am certain of only one thing about organizing our genealogy
records: there must be sufficient time devoted to the task. I find that
less
than two hours per month for nothing but organizing is my bare minimum.
If I
am hot into research time, I have to reserve at least 1/10 of my time to
organize what I am collecting. 
 
 
 
Loran Ralph Braught
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(812) 535-3618
8380 N. Crestwood Pl
West Terre Haute, IN 47885
 
Researching mostly Braught/Braucht, Bruner, Ruggles, Riley
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Johnny V 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing

One of the best ways I found to organize and classify pictures and
documents
for my genealogy is a standard naming convention using the format; 
LastName_ First_Middle_RIN_PhotoNumber (0001, 0002, etc.) for
individuals, 
LastName_MRIN_MarriageNumber (1, 2, etc.) for marriages, 
DocumentName_LastName_First_Middle_RIN_DocumentNumber (0001, 0002, etc.)
for
Documents, 
Headstone_LastName_First_Middle_RIN for headstone pictures, etc. 

Using this naming convention, you can easily distinguish between people
of
the same name using their RIN of the database and also locate different
items such as Manifests, Census, Headstones, etc. in a flash. 

I keep all the photos and documents in the Legacy folder on Drive C in
subfolder Pictures, this way when I want to share any info with
relatives
they are very easily located.

Hope this helps
John Valencic 
On 4/14/07, Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Sally
Saving your images as a .tiff file is the commonly accepted 'best way'
to 
keep digital copies of your original.  This would then become your
'master
copy'.

>From that you could make .jpgs to whatever file size you deem
appropriate
for use (website, email atch, Legacy image, etc). 

As for where to file your digital images, opinions on this will vary.  I
have one folder under my Legacy directory titled "Images".  Within this
folder I have several sub-folders.   My preference is to keep all
'people' 
images in one sub-folder titled "Photograph".  I also have digital
images of
buildings, monuments, correspondence, newspaper articles, census
records,
documents, etc.  These are also all filed in separate sub-folders
according 
to their subject category.

How you title your images is also a matter of personal preference.  I
prefer
a simple numbering system (File ID).  For example, my "Photographs" are
labeled P0001, P0002, P0003, and so on.  My "Documents" are labeled
D0001, 
D0002, D0003, and so on.  The same applies to my other image categories.

Legacy allows you to capture details of each image by providing image
fields
such as "Caption", "Date", "Description", and "File ID".  And also
permits 
assigning images to specific individuals.  This is where I record the
necessary details about each image.

Unfortunately as yet Legacy only provides one report format for this
information.  The report sorts by File ID.  Suggestions have been
submitted 
to also include an alphabetical sort and other image report options.

Until then one must use a supplemental program to report details of the
images.  Many people use MS Access since Access is directly compatible
with 
Legacy's data base.  However, this requires a reasonable understanding
of
the Access program and its interface with Legacy to generate the desired
reports.  Not a lighthearted undertaking.

Once Legacy establishes a more sophisticated report capability for
images, 
the process will be simple and efficient.

If I can help further with any specific questions, feel free to email me
directly.

Gary
O'Fallon IL, USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:LegacyUserGroup-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Macias
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 7:45 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] About Picture Filing 
>
> I'm trying to figure out how to organize the pictures.  With an HP
scanner
> the image goes to the HP Solutions Center which apparently stores the
scans
> by date.  I've been opening them and doing some modest editing, then 
saving
> them in TIFF format to an external hard drive.  Then I open the tiff
images
> in Photoshop Elements and do more dramatic editing and save as jpeg on
> external drive, in folder of edited images, to post to MyFamily
website 
and
> to use in email.  This seems like a lot of manipulating for each image
and
> at this point I still have to add the image to Legacy. I've got
multiple
> copies of each image but not really a backup since they're in
different 
> formats and stages of editing and sizes.  Before adding too many more
I
need
> to figure out a filing system--in separate family folders,
> lastnamefirstname+brief description or date if I have it, is what I'm 
> thinking so far.  Is there a better way to do this?  What are the rest
of
> you doing to organize your photos, what programs are you using?
>
> Sally Macias



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