Thanks. Found it in an archives somewhere. I can actually see my house in the photo.
Dennis On 8/26/2011 4:04 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote: > Dennis.... > > That photo on your homepage is wonderful > > Tim > > On 8/26/2011 12:56 PM, Dennis Sutton wrote: >> Ron, >> >> Yesterday, given the problem I encounter, I close all my programs >> down and I did a clean-up on my system (cookies, history, temp files, >> etc.) and I deleted the web pages I built. Following that I returned to >> Legacy and created a new web page. As I noted his went without a >> problem and I was able to upload to my host and am running it now. >> >> I just did another new create web page and again it came up clean >> (no extra source files). I think there was a probably residual >> files/data left on my Legacy which was causing this data to build and >> clearing everything out clean it up. >> >> I'll keep your recommended fix on queue and should I incur the >> problem again, I'll try it. >> >> Thanks to you and everyone who helped get this matter resolved. >> >> Dennis >> >> On 8/26/2011 2:07 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>> Dennis, >>> >>> Evert came up with the suggestion that worked for me - try using the Reset >>> button on the bottom right, or failing that delete the webpages.usr file (it >>> will rebuild itself). I really should have thought of that myself - I've >>> suggested it often enough! >>> >>> I would be grateful if you could do a small run and let me know the outcome. >>> >>> Ron Ferguson >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dennis Sutton >>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 3:57 PM >>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files - Web Pages >>> >>> Ron, >>> >>> Thanks for taking a look at that. Appreciate in hearing if they >>> found anything that might have caused this. >>> >>> Dennis >>> >>> On 8/26/2011 10:29 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>>> Dennis, >>>> Legacy Version 7.5.0.112 >>>> >>>> I have checked the Individual web pages with Sources at the bottom of each >>>> page. I only used 21 people, so it is a limited test, but I did not find >>>> that the Sources accumulated on successive pages. However, I did find that >>>> for each page the Sources were duplicated. >>>> >>>> I have requested that the Beta Testers examine my findings, clearly there >>>> is >>>> a bug sculling around, and how it manifests may depend on other settings - >>>> apart from setting the Sources to appear on every page, I used the Legacy >>>> defaults. >>>> >>>> Ron Ferguson >>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Dennis Sutton >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:57 PM >>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files - Web Pages >>>> >>>> Ron, >>>> >>>> I was able to get the information onto my webpage >>>> (http://njsuttonfamily.org). I use Ipswitch WS_FTP Professional to >>>> transfer my files. I routinely run the clean-up that Brian mentioned. >>>> >>>> Let me see if I can explain the other issue better. To create a >>>> web >>>> page I did (Internet>Create Web Page). Then I completed the set-up >>>> using the Web Page Style "Individual". I believe the problem I had with >>>> the first page I tried to create was on the tab "Other" I checked >>>> "Include source citations" and hit the button "On each individual's >>>> page". This place the source on the first page it created, then on the >>>> second page it created it added the source from page 1 and the new >>>> sources for the items on the second page, and continued to do this >>>> through (adding the previous sources) to each new page until it >>>> completed the build. As I said the file size ended up at 3.4GB. >>>> >>>> The new web page I created I was able to correct the above problem. >>>> The only source records are recorded in a source file. Thus it is only >>>> 34MB in size. >>>> >>>> With this file and a couple of other things I added it took about >>>> 1 >>>> 1/2 hours to download. >>>> >>>> The output looks good. Still have some clean-up to do. >>>> >>>> I didn't split the families. This web page consists of all my >>>> Legacy data together. Hope this clears things a little. >>>> >>>> Dennis >>>> >>>> On 8/25/2011 3:57 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>>>> Dennis, >>>>> >>>>> Sorry it has taken a while to get back to you but I have been at the >>>>> Local >>>>> History Library where I had a machine booked for a project I am working >>>>> on. >>>>> I have also split the subject of the topic to try and separate out our >>>>> discussion from the others. >>>>> >>>>> I have not fully absorbed the information which you have given, and all >>>>> may >>>>> become clear as I work through it. However, some points do spring to >>>>> mind: >>>>> your upload and download speeds are pretty much the same as mine, my >>>>> Pedigree pages are between (roughly) 10 and 15KB per page and I have the >>>>> sources on each page. Because I have a load of stuff in the same folder I >>>>> do >>>>> not know the actual total size but I would think around 110 MB. >>>>> >>>>> I am not clear what type of pages to which you refer - Pedigree or >>>>> Individual. At one time I used the latter for my One-Name pages with the >>>>> default of 10 names per page, which I later increased, but I cannot check >>>>> the size of these, as I no longer have any on my PC. I would be grateful >>>>> if >>>>> you could clarify what page is meant by : >>>>> " I just created a new web page and found something strange between >>>>> this one and the original I created. The new page is on 20.4MB vs >>>>> 3.42GB.." >>>>> This is absolutely massive for one page! >>>>> >>>>> Brian's comment is very relevant, and it is a technique which I use if >>>>> everything seems to be slow. Similarly when uploading I suggest that you >>>>> shut down your browser and email client, and close as many programs as >>>>> possible. What is your FTP program btw.? >>>>> >>>>> Ron Ferguson >>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Dennis Sutton >>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 2:48 PM >>>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files >>>>> >>>>> Ron, >>>>> >>>>> I just created a new web page and found something strange >>>>> between >>>>> this one and the original I created. The new page is on 20.4MB vs >>>>> 3.42GB.. >>>>> >>>>> I noted on the original file that for each each page created, I >>>>> requested the source be included on the bottom of that page. However, >>>>> for each record, the source for the previous record was included along >>>>> with the new sources for the new record. By the time the last page was >>>>> created it consisted of 9914 source records when in fact it should have >>>>> no source recorded. The size of these files started at 4KB but with the >>>>> additive sources the file sizes toward the end where 3134KB. >>>>> >>>>> Furthermore, it also created a separate Source file, containing >>>>> all >>>>> the sources. This file was 3201KB >>>>> >>>>> The page file sizes on the new web page I created are between >>>>> 4KB >>>>> and 16KB in size and don't have the source at the end of the each page. >>>>> The Source file, is still there and still 3201KB. >>>>> >>>>> Not sure what I asked for it the set up that presented this the >>>>> first time but apparently I changed that in the 2nd run. >>>>> >>>>> So I believe I can upload the database a little faster. I have >>>>> a >>>>> DSL connection. My upload is about .40Mbps while the download is >>>>> suppose to 6Mbps. >>>>> >>>>> I still would like to go back and split my file but have not >>>>> had >>>>> much success in working through the info contained in Legacy or with >>>>> help from Wendy. >>>>> >>>>> I'll have to try to upload the new file again to my web page and >>>>> will let you know how long it took. >>>>> >>>>> Dennis >>>>> >>>>> On 8/25/2011 8:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>>>>> Dennis, >>>>>> >>>>>> In which case 3hrs surprises me, although it does depend on the speed of >>>>>> your broadband and possibly your FTP program. My largest pedigree file >>>>>> is >>>>>> around 9000 and takes nothing like that, not sure how long, maybe 1 >>>>>> 1/2hrs, >>>>>> but I will be uploading the lot at the end of this month. My broadband >>>>>> download speed is rated 8mbs (actually 6mbs). >>>>>> >>>>>> You may not be aware that there are ways that enable you to only upload >>>>>> changed files, and although not on topic for this list, they can be >>>>>> discussed on LUG at http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/WUL/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron Ferguson >>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Dennis Sutton >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 1:20 PM >>>>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files >>>>>> >>>>>> Ron, >>>>>> >>>>>> My single tree file consists of 11176 individuals. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dennis >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/25/2011 7:45 AM, Ron Ferguson wrote: >>>>>>> Dennis, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How big is your single tree? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron Ferguson >>>>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Dennis Sutton >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:42 AM >>>>>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wendy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I originally had 6 family trees and about a year ago I opted >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> combine them into one to make input easier. I was attempting to upload >>>>>>> the new Legacy tree on my web site, to replace my old TMG program >>>>>>> file.. >>>>>>> However, because of the size it seems it takes forever to upload. It >>>>>>> ran for over 3 hours yesterday and still hadn't uploaded. So I decided >>>>>>> to split the tree back to at least 4 separate files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As I said, I was able to split my wife's family into 2 >>>>>>> separate >>>>>>> trees (Eltz and Connor) and appears to have worked. However, I note >>>>>>> when I run Tree Finder, I am also listed as the only name on both >>>>>>> families. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I tried to split my family family (Sutton and Jones) I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> get the nice clean separation that I got with my wife's families. I >>>>>>> created the new trees starting with my and my wife's parents. On her >>>>>>> trees her brother and sister are still showing with both parents and I >>>>>>> still show up linked to her through marriage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Don't know if I should show up on my wife's tree with I run >>>>>>> Tree >>>>>>> Finder. I also noted that the RIN numbers when I did the split >>>>>>> continue >>>>>>> to be the same as from when I had the single tree, i.e. my >>>>>>> father-in-law >>>>>>> was RIN 10318 in the single tree and still the RIN in the Eltz split >>>>>>> file.. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Really wish I had left the files split early on. I still >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> but have added so much more info and did a big source record clean up >>>>>>> that I'm reluctant to revert back to them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dennis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/25/2011 1:40 AM, Wendy Howard wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Dennis, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Still sounds confusing but as for running the Tree Finder, the only >>>>>>>>> name >>>>>>>>> which shows up on both family trees is "me". Would this be correct >>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>> I split with the one file at my mother and father and then unlinked >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> grandparents from each of my parents. >>>>>>>> I don't see how the same person can turn up in two different trees in >>>>>>>> Tree Finder - that doesn't make sense. Do the two have the same RIN? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When I unlink my father's parents, he no longer showed up listed as a >>>>>>>>> child. >>>>>>>> That's what unlinking does. If it's not the effect you're after, then >>>>>>>> this isn't the point at which you need to unlink someone. 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