Cathy, Thanks for all the background & information.  I thought I had kept up 
with what was coming v8, but I don't remember ever hearing about this change.  
I think it might be nice for newbies, but for those of us who have used the 
fully flexible sentence structure functionality, it feels like a nightmare.  I 
mean, I am dreading even thinking about how I would check to see how this 
hard-coded change may have damaged how my events show on reports.  *sigh*  

Did someone actually ask for this, I wonder...
 
--Paula 


________________________________
 From: Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com>
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:49 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence


Mercifully, if you have [Notes] and/or [Sources] in the Event
Sentence Definition they only appear once.
This is the case even if for some events you rely on the tick in the
Report Options - event options - tick to include event notes to
include event notes.

If you want the notes to start on a new line you need to include
[CR][Notes] in your Event Sentence Definitions.

Paula,
The tick box in the Report Options to include Event notes does not
override the tick on the Event itself to exclude the note from reports.

These myriad of tick boxes work the same as the tick boxes in the
sources which have always been with us though we probably don't
notice them so much as most of them are set the defaults and forget.

The difference is that with the tick boxes on eg Source Detail Text
and Comments, if you've set the default to be unticked, you tick to include.
However, with Event Notes, the default is to have the notes checkbox
checked and its not a default that can be controlled.

Personally I don't like the new system for Event Notes. I argued
against it during development but didn't succeed.
I have also argued that if we have them, we ought to be able to reset
them in the same way as you can reset the source options in option
7.3. But that hasn't eventuated.
Apparently checkboxes are easier for most people to use rather than
the codes in Event Sentences. Mystery to me as I find them much
harder.  And to test whether all the varying options are working
properly is a nightmare.

Note that option 7.10 controls whether notes or sources comes first
if they're not included in the Sentence Definition.

Cathy

At 12:37 AM 25/04/2014, you wrote:
>Brian,
>Are the [Notes] and [Sources] redundant just in reports or in any
>constructed sentence? The Help text cites both as still being used in Legacy 8.
>When using an event sentence from Legacy 7 in Legacy 8, that
>included either a [Notes] or [Sources] field, will the notes and
>sources be printed twice; once from the inbuilt fields in Legacy 8
>and once from the [Notes] and [Sources] fields from Legacy 7?
>These fields are still recognised in Legacy 8 so I guess the answer is yes.
>
>Geoff
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:49 PM
>To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Event Definition Sentence
>
>Notes and Sources in event sentences in Legacy 8 are redundant. The
>Report options in Legacy 8 decide whether notes and sources are
>included in the reports not the event sentences. In Legacy 7.5 and
>earlier those had to be in the sentence or, even if notes and
>sources were asked for, they would not be included.
>
>Brian
>Customer Support
>Millennia Corporation
>br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Charles Apple wrote:
> > I have noticed that Legacy 8 does not contain the [Notes] and
> > [Sources] placeholders in the default event sentences, however, files
> > that were converted from Legacy 7.5 to Legacy 8 display properly with
> > Notes and Sources. Is there a reason why the [Notes] and [Sources]
> > variables were left out? Are they redundant or not needed? I am not
> > having a problem, but I am trying to understand why the Event
> > Sentences in Legacy 8 are different from those in Legacy 7.5.
> >
> > I have checked the LUG archives and the Legacy 8 manual, and cannot
> > find a satisfactory answer to my question. I am using Legacy 8 Deluxe
> > version 8.0.0.414.
> >
> > Thank you for your assistance,
> >
> > Charles




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