I might add a slight footnote regarding ancestral reports in the narrative
format.

If you go to the library and walk up and down the genealogy bookshelves,
one will find many, many books that are entitled something like "The
ancestors of....."

These books are almost universally presented in a fashion where there are
chapters for each ancestral line, beginning with the top-of-line ancestor
for that line and ending with the first female descendant of that line who
was an ancestor of the root person. The reader is then referred to her
husband's chapter. The husband's chapter will follow from his top-of-line
ancestor down through sons until a woman is met who married an ancestor of
the root person.

Thus, if such a book has 50 chapters, you know the compiler has traced 50
different ancestral lines where there is one completely paternal line and
all the rest are chapters ending with a woman who married a man in one of
the other 50 chapters. This is very simple and also easy to follow, because
you can follow one line from the Mayflower down to a woman descendant who
married an ancestor of the root person in the 1900s all in one chapter. You
can't do that in ahentafel report - you have to "jump" from one number to
another.

Somebody on the internet has actually devised a numbering system that
follows this form of presentation.

It is much more meaningful, in the narrative form at least, but probably
also in a chart form, than a narrative report arranging all ancestors in
ahnentafel numer order.

I think it is quite disappointing that virtually all computer genealogy
software that I am aware has defaulted to the ahnentfal narrative reports
and do not print ancestral reports in the way that they have been presented
in printed books for over a hundred years. This is no slam against Legacy -
no other software that I am aware of does this either.

Norris Taylor




On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Michele/Support <
mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:

> This is a pretty big topic but I will nutshell it best I can.
>
> RINs and MRINs are assigned by the program.  These numbers are necessary
> for database type programs and you can either use them to your advantage or
> you can ignore them, your choice.  Some people like to use the RINs or
> MRINs as part of their paper or electronic filing system.  I don’t.
>
> Ahnentafel numbers are the standard numbering system for Pedigree Charts.
>
> The Register System and the Modified Register System (NGSQ) is what you
> will see on Descendant Book Reports.  Why? Because these are specific
> formats used in The Register (the journal put out by the New England
> Historic Genealogical Society) and the NGSQ (the journal put out by the
> National Genealogical Society).  These are accepted standards for this
> style of report and if you want to submit a genealogy to a society for
> publication one of these formats is what the society will probably ask for.
>
> The Dollarhide system, the Henry system, the d’Aboville system, the de
> Villiers system and others are expansions of the Ahnentafel system so that
> more family members are included.  The Ahnentafel system only accounts for
> the direct line ancestors, no siblings.  I personally would never use any
> of these because they make sense to very few people.
>
> I use Ahnentafel numbers for Pedigree Charts and I use the NGSQ for
> Descendant Book Reports and that’s it ☺
>
>
>
> Michele
> Technical Support
> Millennia Corporation
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Hannigan Family Research
> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 12:07 PM
> To: Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software
> <legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com>
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Numbering System usage/survey
>
> Prior to last night, I knew very little about the various types of
> 'numbering systems' (http://eogen.editme.com/NumberingSystems) that
> genealogy researchers use.  To say that this is a little confusing is an
> understatement. There are many different options with many different
> purposes.  Why are there so many systems and why are they so different?  It
> appears that there is some popular usage tied to the 'Dollarhide System' or
> a modification of that system.  The link above is to Dick Eastman's website
> and the page is the base page if you want to research further the various
> systems. There are links on the page that provide a description (and some
> examples) of they system.
> For most genealogy researchers, this is probably a mute point - meaning
> they don't really think about it, they just allow their computer program to
> establish the pattern.  I think that Legacy 8 uses the 'Record Number'
> system of the database being used and links records together in an
> 'inter-relational' pattern. I know you have the option to display or not
> display the RIN/RMIN when viewing listings/reports.
> First, does Legacy 8 have the option to use a different system than the
> 'Record Number' pattern, like the Dollarhide system, the Register system,
> the NGSQ system or the Ahnentafel system within a particular tree?  If so,
> where do you set it? If not, should it?
> Second, how do other Legacy genealogy researchers use the 'numbering
> systems' available to them? I want to take an informal survey to see if
> there is much consideration given the numbering system for genealogical
> research.
>     A.    I don't know anything about numbering systems and let the
> computer program assign the numbers
>     B.    I set an event for the numbering system
>     C.    I use another method/program to monitor the relationship
> numbering system for my research
> I hope this does not confuse people, because from what I read last night,
> it is very important (and informative) when you publish material in
> professional journals and books.
> Thank you for your patience.
> John Hannigan
> Florida
>
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