Just my humble opinion. A surname is a surname whether it was derived from the surname of the father, the given name of the father or the name of the farm upon which the person lived. From my experience, the most difficult surname problem is where a person acquires (de facto or de Jure) another surname, not of an adoptive or biological parent. I have an example of two boys who left England and adopted the surname of the man who helped them survive the crossing of the Atlantic.
Dale McIntyre On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Tessa Keough <murke...@gmail.com> wrote: > For my Scandinavian ancestors I use their patronym as their surname > because that is what it is. For those who changed their surname at any > time, I use the AKA with the surname and explanation. You could also have a > Surname Change event/fact and enter the data there to put it in > chronological order. You could also use a tab to indicate patronyms (be > sure to include what the tab indicates right from the get go). As to > farmnames and/or residence information personally I put that in the suffix > area but you could also put it in fact/event. > > Legacy is pretty flexible and I wanted to make sure I liked the way a > report read (especially chronology reports) so I played around with it from > the beginning of my Scandinavian research. Am interested to learn what > others have done - so please share! > > Tessa > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:38 AM Thomas Wildeboer <twildeb...@gmx.de> > wrote: > >> I will look the residence name, but i don't understand why a programm >> like legacy don't handle the patronym correct in person-data and reports. >> >> Unfortunately it is not correct, that all names ending with "son, sen"... >> are a patronym. Some families are using surnames together with patronyms. >> And under Napoleon families had to use a surname (which most times was >> their former patronym, but did not change in next generation). After >> Napoleon some of them starting again using the patronym. >> >> It should be possible in legacy to "mark" a surname as patronym. Persons >> may also have a patronym and a surname. In reports the patronym should be >> userdefined formated (bold, italic,...). And in namelists the person should >> be listed (as option) under the patronym and under the surname. >> >> Regards, >> Thomas >> >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 25. November 2016 um 18:07 Uhr >> *Von:* "Linda Greethurst" <llg...@gmail.com> >> *An:* "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >> *Betreff:* Re: [LegacyUG] patronymic names >> The patronym IS the normal surname if you are researching those areas who >> have subscribed to that practice. If a surname ends in a variation of >> "son, sen" or "datter, dotter" then you KNOW it was a patronym. Anything >> else identifies a residence where they lived at some point in their life. >> Those other names often changed within a person's lifetime. So for >> example, if Ole Petersen lived in one place when he was baptized, but lived >> somewhere else when he was married and lived a third place when he died, he >> would have 3 different "residence names" but he was still Ole Petersen. >> The inclusion of the residence in a name was a means of separating >> individuals who also had the name of Ole Petersen. In Legacy I use the >> AKA's to identify the residence name. By the way, I have 27 direct line >> Ole Olsen's in my family tree and that residence name keeps them all unique >> individuals (along with the RIN that Legacy assigns them). >> Linda Greethurst >> >> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Thomas Wildeboer <twildeb...@gmx.de> >> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> my east-frisian (part of north germany) ancestors have patronymic names. >> In my old genealogy-programm i could enter the patronymic name in a special >> field. There I could search for patronymic names as surname, the persons >> are listed under the patronymic in surname list, in reports I can set a >> special format (italic or bold) for the patronym, so I can see that it is >> nor a "normal" surname. That is important for the search of further >> ancestors, because the father has not the same patronym for surname as the >> child, from the patronym i only can get the fathers first name e. g. father >> of Harm Jansen has the first name Jan and the patronym of Jan could be >> Otten, Pieters, Harmsen.... >> >> The patronym is not only used in northern germany, it is also used in >> netherlands, island and scandinavian countries. So I hope that Legacy can >> handle it correct. >> >> Is there a special "control character" to mark a surname as patronym? How >> can I list persons under the patronym in surname lists? How can i format >> the patronym in reports and maybe also for screen-output/views? >> For your answers and tipps I thank you in advance. >> >> Regards, >> Thomas >> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ >> mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> >> >> -- LegacyUserGroup mailing list LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com To >> manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ >> mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ >> mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> > > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe http://legacyusers.com/ > mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > >
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