Hi Laura I could not agree more with you. You summarised my feelings exactly. We all need to work together and cut out the bitching. Regards Billy Nyhan in Ireland
From: Laura Ellene Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 2:16 AM To: 'Legacy User Group' Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default Events I have been following this. This is my first post. We have so much strife and bad manners in the world today, this doesn’t seem the place to exhibit it. Even some of the apologies have “digs.” I think it is wonderful for Legacy to host such a forum for users and I am grateful. If I went out with “Bill,” I wouldn’t spend the evening talking about “Don” or Bill would give me the gate and deservedly so. I think I understand the point Legacy is making and don’t want to kick them for it. It is just good manners to not use this forum as an advertisement for a competitive product. Laura From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of johnbernac...@iprimus.com.au Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 7:03 PM To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default Events Mea culpa. My desire to help others and my frustration about lack of Unicode caused me to briefly forget the harsh reality that Legacy’s bottom line is about making money. John From: Sherry Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 6:07 AM To: Legacy User Group Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Data Entry Default Events Dave, You only mentioned AQ in passing, but I was commenting on your way of thinking that you stated in your first sentence. I didn't create the rules..... Certainly other programs have been mentioned in passing, but not quite the promotion that the other poster gave. And yes, Unicode has been on the "wish list" for a long time. However, the current programming language that the programmers are using - VB6 - doesn't support that. Until they can learn another programming language and port Legacy over to that, the program won't be able to support Unicode. Some of the most avid users of Legacy have found a "work-around" by using Western European fonts - they find the advantages to Legacy far outweigh the inability to add their Eastern European ancestry with the correct spelling. Sherry On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:25 AM, David Picken <dpic...@web.de> wrote: Sherry has drawn a red line and is telling me that I have crossed it by mentioning (not promoting, please) a non-Legacy product. I’m sorry about that and will try to stay behind the red line in future, although my expectations on a user group are certainly somewhat wider than described in the guidelines. That post was written by me not to hype any other product, but purely to offer a possible solution for my fellow users who are not getting the performance they need from Legacy, based on my personal experience. At the risk of being thrown off this list (on World Press Freedom Day of all days), just allow me please to mention that the archive of this user group has been discussing Unicode and Eastern European language support since at least 2006, with intentions of porting the software to a platform that supports Unicode being given as answers back then and at several times in between. So now we are 10 years on, support for Unicode did not happen with Legacy9, and I guess the move to support Unicode is still „imminent“. Could it be that users with a serious requirement for Cyrillic, Asian, Middle Eastern etc. language support have long moved on to a different product? Courteously, David Am 20170503 um 15:06 schrieb Sherry <hot.rod.w...@gmail.com>: This is a user's group for LEGACY and its add-on programs. This is stated in the second sentence of the Legacy User Group Guidelines at http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp (the link is on the page where you signed up to join the group) The group was not created to promote other programs or for questions about using other programs. It was created for those "how-to" questions when you can't find the answers or figure out something The message about FTM (and your promo for AQ) should have gone off-list. Think about it - if you were selling Coke products, would you like someone to be promoting Pepsi on your website or mailing list?? The programmers are busy programming and don't follow the lists like they used to. In the Support section of the Legacy Home tab, you can send Support questions for technical support and Suggestions for new features or enhancing existing ones. Use that form if you wish to suggest Unicode or some other new feature. Sherry On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 1:30 AM, David Picken <dpic...@web.de> wrote: I support John’s way of thinking. This is a Users’ Group, not a promotion platform for Legacy. What we all have in common – I assume – is our desire to do best possible genealogical research and conserve, present, share and publish the results in the best possible way. Legacy is just one tool to help us do that. If the development staff follow this group (an exercise commonly known as marketing), they will find many clues as to how they could optimize Legacy, and if anyone sends people off to look at other products without justification, then the Legacy folks are free to tell us why we should stay with Legacy. As for Unicode, those who need that may want to try AncestralQuest – it worked for me when importing Ukrainian (Cyrillic alphabet) names and places. 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