I note that there has been discussion on this. Re Shirley. I followed what was said, and found that it made no difference clicking the User Id. It was there all the time. Now maybe I am not looking in the right place. I note that the User Id is filled out when I look at the individual's detail window. The Rin is mentioned in the left hand window on the Name List. Is there nowhere where you can view both together, even say on the main Family view, and be able to change this to User Id if you would like. I use this facility quite a bit, and found it a breeze in Paf. Thanks for your time. Gwen
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