For my two penny worth.

Abbreviations in addresses that are in common accepted usage in the
genealogical world should be perfectly acceptable.  I refer of course to the
Chapman Codes as a prime example.  A good guide is the Genealogical Research
Directory usage.  This includes, besides the Chapmen Codes, abbreviations
for the states of the USA and Australia and the provinces of Canada, amongst
others.

What is confusing is the failure, particularly by American and British
genealogists, to indicate the country concerned when it is USA or England.

The order of the place names gives the geographical hierarchy, so working
backwards from the end we have Country, State/Province or County, Locality
(e.g. Town, City, Village, Parish, Specific place, for example:

Kilcoy, QLD, Australia
Long Island, Queens, NY, USA
Dundas Street Independent Chapel, Monkwearmouth Shore, DUR, England

Not to abbreviate can lead to place names longer than the allowed limit,
especially if our American friends type in United States of America instead
of USA all the time :)

Tony Ralli
Deakin, ACT, Australia


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From: "Evert van Dijken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Addresses (was Big Apple)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:13:06 +0200
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Thank you.
Evert form HTN in Utr NL

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From: "Richard Schulthies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:37 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Addresses (was Big Apple)


> You are correct that we should not use abbreviations but remember that
much
> if the IGI and AncestrySearch stuff was created before computers, or very
> soon after that time frame.  At that time we even had abbr. dates, which
> lead to Y2K. Many more people are using standard locations today, but
> nobody is going to fix all the old stuff for free. Who has the money to
> pay. If you have a bunch of locations in the USA, I know  the US Postal
> service has a website, which should have all the abbr's. But I haven't
been
> there for a while. Print the list and tape it next to the monitor.
> Good Luck, Rich in LA CA
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Hilary Franklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 6/28/2003 4:19:24 PM
> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Addresses (was Big Apple)
> >
> > I would just like to add something to the thread below which has been
> > bugging me for a long time. Could our fellow American
genealogists/family
> > historians PLEASE put in the county and state addresses completely when
> > adding to an internet site. We in other parts of the world would have no
> > idea what MD, IL, etc refers to. Having to check these abreviations in a
> > book or on the LDS site is just extra work for us. I research in the
> British
> > Isles, Amercia and Australia and consider my descendants and write the
> > complete address e.g. Kilcoy, Queensland, Australia  so that down the
> track
> > they will know where these places are and where their ancestors lived. I
> > know there has been a precedent set many years ago for addresses however
> who
> > did this did not think of all those people beyond America.
> >
> > We in Australia have a simple address - town, state and country. We know
> > exactly where we are :)
> >
> > Thank you for listening,
> > Hilary in Kilcoy, Queensland, Australia
> >
> >
> > From: "Louise Par" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Apple
> > Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 10:41:40 -0400
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Oy,
> > I am 'not' saying the following is the way it 'should' be entered.
> >
> > Example:
> > Long Island-New York, Queens County/Borough, New York
> > (if you want, you could put ", USA" on the end.  I don't use it.)
> >
> > I am saying this is the way 'I would' enter it.
> >
> > Louise
> >


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