Krister, at the moment, I am having a fight with myself to determine which location system to use in Norway. 75% of my sources are church records, so I use the clerical areas. Farm, Parish, ( 'Super'Parish, not used), amt, country. and a second set which is political .Gaard, Sokn, Herred, Fylke., for the censuses, and '1950'. The older censuses actually used the clerical boundaries, so now the boundaries used before are meaningless to the current situation. Help Rich in LA CA
-----Original Message----- From: Kristian Fjeldsg�rd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Nov 21, 2003 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V5: GeoStateCodes.txt Ken http://www.dokpro.uio.no/rygh_ng/rygh_form.html http://www.dokpro.uio.no/rygh_ng/rygh_info.html with connection to the 1950 land registration lists and http://www.rhd.uit.no/matrikkel/excel.html gives Norwegian locations. None of them has longitude/latitude and it is based on farm names. Cities/Villages is not includes except as comments. The order of the locations is: Farm, Parish, Municipal, County (Gaard, Sokn, Herred, Fylke) I use the first link for my locations, and it also gives me the link to medival information of the farms. I don't know if it's possible for you to transform this bases, but if any interest contact me of list Kristian in Norway P� Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:32:02 -0700, skrev Ken McGinnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > When we get to the point of editing the geo database users will be able > to > enter missing items like this one. One of the things we need to figure > out > is when everyone can edit locations do we want to try to collect those > corrections/additions and add a way for distributing these files users > submit to everyone else. The big problem is with everyone being > Genealogists and wanting verification of locations how do we handle > conflicting information. Either on this list or maybe it was on our > beta > testing mailing list we had a person who lives in a county here in the > USA > and they reported that we had a problem and should correct our file. A > quick search of the internet (not a very reliable source many times) > showed > the location two different ways. The official name was correct in our > database and even though that person had lived there for many years > didn't > know the official name of it. Another big problem of sharing the > changes > is our source of geo data comes from a company that claims they have > about > 10,000 changes a month. We are planning on refreshing our data with each > major release of Legacy. This means those 10,000 changes each month > plus > all the changes any users submit somehow have to be verified and as a > small > company we simply don't have the resources. So, Editing may have to > remain > something that a user can export before a major release when we give > them a > new updated database and then import their changes back into the new > file. > It would be great if we had a way of verifying everything that our users > will be adding. > > Thanks > > Ken McGinnis > Millennia Corporation > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > We are changing the world of genealogy! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christer Siverud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:26 AM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V5: GeoStateCodes.txt > > > Hi > > As I understand it Krummendiek is a small town or village in the area > called > Itzehoe. There is a central administrative city called Itzehoe also in > the > area of Itzehoe. > > These are some of the reference I have: > 1. Jurgen Sehestede zum Krummendick mit der frauen (Jurgen S from > Krummendick with wifes). Zum in german for nobles often means it is a > castle > or town. > 2. Erik KRUMMEDIGE Abt. 1332 Krummendiek, Itzehoe, Slesvig-Holstein Aft. > 1388. This is a referance from a old German document indicating that > Krummendiek is a village/town in the area of Itzehoe. > > Landgerichts Itzehoe http://www.lg-itzehoe.de/. This is the webpage for > the > area of Itzehoe. Landesgericht now a days is about the same as County in > US > but a couple of hundreds of years ago it was equal to State in US. Any > native German who can explain this better ? > There is a town in the area called Itzehoe with a webpage > http://www.itzehoe.de/Itzehoe/. > So there is both a town and a "county" named Itzehoe > > Now if you look at companies in Itzehoe area there is a place called > Krummendiek. This company have an adress there (no map unfortunatly) > http://www.teppichreich.com/. Krummendiek is referenced as an "ort" in > zipcode lists and "ort" usually means small town. > So there is an town Krummendiek in the area of Itzehoe too. > > The correct entry in Geo database as I see it would have been: > Itzehoe, Itzehoe, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany (the administrative city) > AND > Krummendiek, Itzehoe, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany (the town I am making > referance to) > > Christer > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken McGinnis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:37 AM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V5: GeoStateCodes.txt > > >> First question for you is. Is Krummendick a City/Town in Germany or is >> Itzehoe the city. I have tried a few searches of online databases and > none >> of them show Krummendick as a city. They all seem to show Itzehoe as a >> city as does our database. >> >> See a couple I tried: >> http://www.heavens-above.com/countries.asp >> Click on Germany and enter Krummendick and click search. It's not >> found. >> Click back and enter Itzehoe and click search. It is found as a city. >> >> Try this one. >> http://gnswww.nima.mil/geonames/GNS/index.jsp >> On the left click the GNS Search. Next click on Germany in the Country > Code >> list box. Then try entering Krummendick in the Name: box and click > search. >> It's not found. Close that window and enter Itzehoe in the Name: box >> and >> click Search Database again. It's is found. >> >> When we move Itzehoe to the city field it seems correct to me. >> >> Thanks >> >> Ken McGinnis >> Millennia Corporation >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com >> We are changing the world of genealogy! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christer Siverud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] V5: GeoStateCodes.txt >> >> >> Ken >> >> It is important to point out that your explanation is only valid for US >> locations. The search function does not work like that in other places. >> >> Example: >> Master location data used to search: >> Krummendick, Itzehoe, Schleswig-Holstein, Preussen >> Core result >> Itzehoe, , Schleswig-Holstein, Germany << City moved one position to >> left, >> city now hold county data. >> Core+ result >> Krummendick, Itzehoe, , Schleswig-Holstein, Germany << City moved one >> position to left (=farm?) , city now hold county data. >> >> Selecting Core+ gives >> Long location >> Krummendick, Itzehoe, , Schleswig-Holstein, Germany >> Short location >> Krummendick, Itzehoe, , Schleswig-Holstein, DEU >> >> End result - city information moved away from city field and county into >> city field. 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