Rich
For your information:
Legacy in the Norwegian version supports the letters �.�,� (sorting)
I suppose the same for other languages: �, � scimilar to � and �. (Germany and Sweden)
As far as I know � is genuine for Norway and Denmark?
That means that people needing the feature will be able to use when the oficiel version is launched.
Kristian in Norway
P� Fri, 11 Jun 2004 18:59:30 -0700 (GMT-07:00), skrev Rich from LA CA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On a side issue, in the English speaking areas, the 'better' way to type the 'a with the circle on top'(�) is aa, the 'o with a line through it is oe' (�), and the 'ae as ae' �.
Or alt-0229, alt-0248, alt-0230.
Rich in LA CA
-----Original Message----- From: Carol Wait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jun 9, 2004 10:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Farm Names
Hi Loni, Thanks for the idea but that doesn't work. It's hard to explain but I will try.
My 5th great grandfather Peder Mikkelson was born on the farm of Lonning. He was called Mikkelson as his father's name was Mikkel, which is the patronymic system. A daughter would be Mikkelsdaughter (usually spelt Mikkelsdtr.). The patronymic name was not part of the baptismal name. The bapized name was only one name (sometimes a middle name was added). The patronymic name was added as there may be several Peder's living on the same farm, so they knew my 5 gr. grandfather was Peder, Mikkel's son and not Ole's son. In town he would be Peder Mikkelson from Lonning. That is Peder's son from the farm of Lonning. If he moved to another farm he would be called by that farm's name. So I spent many months looking for my 4th grt. grandfather who was always called Hans Pedersen Siggjar Vagen, which I found out was Siggjarvag (the a in vag should have a small circle above it), then happened to see another site put on line by a relative and found his name was Hans Pedersen Lonning, before he became Hans Pedersen Siggjarvag . So I should have been looking for Hans Pedersen Lonning, or Hans Pedersen from Lonning. It gets even more complicated than this. For example,my grandfather's name was Lars Andreas Pedersen Ersland who had an older brother by the same name who died at the age of one year. The custom was to name the next son after the one who died. Sometimes the children took the mother's name. Also, when my 3rd grt grandfather died young, his wife remarried and the man who married her took her husbands name, that is the name of Eritsland (same name as Ersland, different spelling). So this is why Kristen and I put the persons first name and patronymic name in the "given" name field and the farm name in the "surname" field. The spelling variations of farms I put into notes, the people under the AKA. To us in North America it may seem that the name Eritsland is their surname but it isn't. My grandfather changed his name from Lars Andreas Pedersen (adapting to the system of "last" names in America) to Lars Andreas Eritsland when he moved to Minnesota, so my maiden surname is Eritsland, but the names Lonning, Siggjarvagen, and Eritsland were farm names in Norway, and not on any legal papers as a "surname" or "after name" in Norway until the naming practices changed in the mid 1800's ( I think that's the date). Having the names in notes, events or anything else makes it cumbersome to search if you have as I do 8,000+ names. I do miss having the AKA's showing on the family view ( version 4 deluxe), it did simplify searches.
I'm not sure what the answer is, but Kristen may be right about a "Middle Name". See Kristen's message of today as well. I think what Kristen and others are saying is if Legacy truly wants to expand into Europe (I think Kristen did say this in another e-mail) then they need to take the customs of those countries into consideration. Sometimes we don't realize that our ways can be as confusing to people in other countries as their ways are sometimes confusing to us. I had a difficult time explaining the terms "today, this morning, this afternoon, this evening, and tonight" to my Swiss-German friends. I in turn found it hard to know the difference of when to use guten tag ( good day), gut morgen (good morning) and gut ahbend (good evening) myself until I lived there for a while. Doesn't it seem simple? Good day can be said in the morning so I thought, but I was wrong. I'm still not sure when to say "Good day " in Switzerland so avoid saying it. I don't know what the test people in Norway , Sweden, Denmark and other countries are suggesting to the programmers, I imagine they have some very good ideas. By the way, my Irish ancestors apparently followed the same patronymic system which I only found out about recently.
I think Legacy is a terrific program, it certainly meets most of my wants ( 90%) which is a pretty good average !
I hope this explains some of what Kristen, myself and others are talking about. Hopefully it's clearer than mud! Carol
Loni Gardner wrote:
Dear Carol,
Many months ago in the user notes one person suggested the following method for recording cemeteries.
Prescott (Pioneer Cem.), Maricopa, Arizona. It has worked out for me.
I know farm names are important in research, could you use the same method, only insert the farm name as above?
Just a thought.
Loni Gardner
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