On Thursday 17 June 2004 14:23 Rich from LA CA wrote:

> It was Germany at the time, it was conquered, the records are
> still in the place, but now it is found in Russia. Maybe that
> is why he left? The Germans left, those staying behind became
> Russians of German extraction.

Sorry, but this is incorrect and is based on that lack of familiarity many
Americans have with the difference between 'nation' and 'country' (or
'state'). A 'nation' shares a common heritage, a common language, a common
religion, etc. Those staying behind would still be considered Germans. In
Russia today, there is a clear distinction between Russians (who are
Orthodox Christians), Poles (who follow the Vatican), Germans (who are
Lutherans), etc.

Similarly, Orthodox Christians (whose heritage is Russian) living in Poland
consider themselves Russians, not Poles. They may live in the *country* (or
state) of Poland, but their *nationality* is Russian, not Polish. Likewise,
someone living in Greece is considered a Turk if they are Muslim -- and if a
Greek converts to Islam, they are considered no longer Greek, but Turk. The
same attitude, in reverse, exists in Turkey.

T.R.

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