"Within a particular country (or part of a country) this will be
consistent."

Not true.  The existing subdivisions happened over a long period of time,
and they were changed from time to time, not necessarily consistently, so
the way they were at one particular point in time does not represent how
they were during other periods, even within the very same state or county.


"The only other dilemma is caused by people who want to force all locations
into four fields."

If you read the discussions thoroughly, you'll notice that some people want
considerably MORE than four fields.  In fact, Legacy already provides NINE
fields, but no way to define them to make them really useful to Legacy other
than the four somewhat US-centric fields.


"That, I believe, is mainly a US problem caused by towns and counties and
possibly townships having the same names so it is not obvious which level is
meant, even for the knowledgeable."

That has absolutely nothing to do with the number of fields being used.  It
has to do with people not being consistent in the way they use whatever
fields they happen to be using.  Put simply, this is the extra comma issue,
not a same-name issue.


Bob


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Cathy
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 17:16
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Back to Basics


Hi,
If jr's method re locations came in and I had to put bits of locations in
different fields, I'd think of looking for another program and be in a real
dilemma.

There is no current dilemma with locations apart from the fact that Legacy
assigns "level 1" to the first piece instead of to the last piece in a
location string. Assigning it to the last means that in effect what jr is
proposing, already happens. (so perhaps it could all happen hidden in the
background) Some locations are town, county, state, country. Others are
town, county, country.
Within a particular country (or part of a country) this will be consistent.
Number from the end and all sorts of useful sorting is possible. It's only
laziness that says that the current right to left sort of locations could
be usefully improved. But the Legacy team are good at providing things to
save us typing :-)

The only other dilemma is caused by people who want to force all locations
into four fields. That, I believe, is mainly a US problem caused by towns
and counties and possibly townships having the same names so it is not
obvious which level is meant, even for the knowledgeable. There is a little
confusion in England between some county "capital" towns and the county but
it is usually obvious which is meant.

Cheers,
Cathy

At 05:13 19/12/2004, you wrote:

>At 09:49 AM 12/18/2004, John R. Bayle wrote:
>>[snip]
>>If Legacy (or any other gen program) adopted the scheme I have
>>suggested for identifying places by assigning a "type" tag with each
place,
>>then the the program doesn't have to "get too smart in trying to decipher
>>which bits of the text string are which!"  Each "bit" will be defined as
>>a City, State, County, Province or whatever.  In order to write out a
>>report, we only need to assign each type to a level.  So for example,
>>when the program sees an address it knows that's Level 1 and that
>>when it sees a City that's Level 2 etc.  One could have multiple
>>government entities at the same level, so State and Province could
>>both be Level 3 so that US States and Canadian Provinces would
>>print just before the country.
>>
>>                                                            jr
>I would like to add a vote for John's proposed method of handling
locations.
>
>I don't see another good way to resolve the location dilemma.
>
>In addition, those who are working on a possible future GEDCOM version are
>using this approach.
>
>Dean L. Bennett

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