My research is all in italian church records, in latin.  I do see
Xbre, 9bre there.  Thanks for the info.  I need to find out more about
dual dating.

Thanks,

Dee




On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:15:05 -0000, Jack Earnshaw
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Until 1752 the year ran from March 25. So the months counted from March to
> February. Hence September was the seventh month of the year. But how did
> they count the second appearance of March? The only time that I have seen
> this directly in parish records, the notation was only used for those four
> months (eg 7er, 8er) with the others named "normally".
> 
> Jack
> 
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> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Impossible date:
> 
> Here's another analysis.  If these records are in latin, I find that
> sometimes the date is in shorthand.  7bry is September (since Sept is
> from seven).  This can look like an abbreviation of February, but it
> is not.
> 
> This shorthand is also used for other months:  8bry is October, 9bry
> is November, Xbry is December.  I was told that the reason the numbers
> don't match our current ordering is because July and August were added
> in the middle to honor Julius and Augustus Caeser.
> 
> Does anybody know more about this?
> 
> Dee
> San Diego
> 
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 12:53:33 -0600, Robert Carneal
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey, folks, have any of you encountered impossible dates?
> >
> > I have two impossible dates birth dates.I obtained birth certificates for
> me
> > to check the original person's work which the person quoted correctly, but
> > the dates are non-existent. They are:
> > 1858-FEB-29
> > and also
> > 1859-FEB-29
> >
> > And neither is a leap year, which Legacy correctly and rightly knows!
> Since
> > I want Legacy to be able to compute ages and do timelines, I am tempted to
> > enter 1858-MAR-01 and 1859-MAR-01 (one calendar day date later) and just
> > explain the dang thing away in notes and show the certificate. Since I am
> > talking about the 29th day of Feb (one day after the 28th of Feb), it
> seems
> > ok to use Mar 1, instead. But the source says otherwise Feb 29, and I
> > probably will end up submitting xeroxes of sources.
> >
> > If I use what the source says, then the age calculations are all fouled
> up,
> > for these people anyway. I am wondering what your opinion is on how to
> > professionally do this? I may be submitting this to a genealogical
> > organization, so I want to be accurate. If I quote impossible dates, it
> may
> > get questioned. If I misquote a source and make it Mar 1 instead, it might
> > get questioned as well, even if I explain it in notes.
> >
> > Do any of you know of a professionally accepted way to handle this?
> >
> > A few of us think this came up before, but I don't remember what the
> > consensus was. Anyone recall the discussion and what was finally decided?
> I
> > didn't see it in Archives.
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
> >
> > Robert
> >
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