Hi Rich, Thank you for taking the time to post this helpful tip. I have about given up doing family history as I am spending so much time trying to figure out and explain some of the New England locality changes. Wabasha County Minnesota before statehood is another hard one. The Handy Book and the Dollarhide Census book do not have the same info. I am thinking of doing the narrative you have posted with a note that Handy Book has for this for 1838, and Dollarhide has this. You have given me fresh hope.
Ann Alamogordo, NM USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich from LA CA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record local government changes? > I have used the other choice. Here is an example of the genealogy of the > Counties of Gallatin and Owen, Kentucky. > This is found in the location notes, and is set to print first time on > reports. From this you can gleam the various names the location has had, > and for the individual cities/towns the local info is found in the notes. > I do dislike using current names for events happening hundreds of years > ago, but as new information becomes available, it can be appended to each > note, as needed. I find it easier to locate current locations on current > maps, than hoping to find a map including the various spellings and > namings. I know it may not be genealogically correct, but until > publishing, > this is easier to maintain. Re: the London, Essex stuff. No matter which > method, I reccommend putting these facts > in the location notes, in either a chart-like thing as above or free form > paragraphs. Stating that the towns of A, B, C, and D has transferred all > BMD, formerly held by Essex County, to London County, in 19xx. The same > problem exist in Jewish BMD records. When the towns in Europe were closed, > the Rabbi's or members took the records and took them where they went. > Many are in Isreal now, but they are found in archives world wide now. And > no one in town now knows where they might be. > > The settlements in the area of Gallatin county were first made about 1776. > Native trouble existed until about 1792. > In 1772, Fincastle county created from Botetourt. It included all of > future Kentucky. > In 1773, the first white men known to have set foot in Owen County were > the McAfee party. > In 1776, Fincastle dissolved into Kentucky, Washington and Montgomery > counties. > In 1777, Kentucky, Washington and Montgomery counties finalized. > In 1780, Kentucky county dissolved into Jefferson, Lincoln and Fayette > counties. > In 1785, Bourbon created from Fayette county, Virginia. > In 1788, Woodford created from Fayette county, Virginia. > In 1792, Kentucky separated from Virginia, became state. Scott from > Woodford. > In 1794, Franklin from Woodford, Shelby, and Mercer counties. > In 1795, Lusby's mill settled > In 1798, Gallatin county from Shelby, Franklin. 420 sq. miles > ON 1 Apr 1819 Gallatin loses to Owen, gains 40 sq. miles. now 380 sq. > miles > ON 27 December 1820 Gallatin loses to Boone 370 sq. miles > In 1828, Owen gains from Gallatin. transferred Eagle Creek area. now 280 > sq. miles > On 9 Feb 1837 Gallatin gains from Boone, now 310 sq. miles > remaining changes not recorded by me. > > Rich in LA CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Cathy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Jan 17, 2005 5:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record local government changes? > > Hi Roy, > > Like you, I have two copies of many Greater London locations as I've > entered them as they were when the event happened. There is an advantage > in > that of accuracy (and I understand it is the genealogical standard). > However it doesn't, in this case, help you know where to look for records. > It seems records tend to have been transferred to the currently relevant > Record Office. eg Records for parts of Essex that are now London are to be > found at the LMA rather than the Essex Record Office as far as I can tell. > > You could use the current County and note the changes in Location Notes > but > these are not obvious on screen or in reports. (I have added a location > note to some to indicate they are the same place - but I must admit I > haven't been consistent with this) > > I think I'll stick with the double entries for the same place but your > suggestion of Greenwich, London (Kent until whenever) has possibilities - > though I think the repetition could be tedious in reports. I certainly > prefer that option to using only the modern location. > > Some have suggested the usefulness of AKAs for locations - but when/where > would you print them so they weren't tedious? > > Cathy > > At 07:08 AM 18/01/2005, you wrote: > > >I have many instances of places that have changed which UK county they > >belong to during the course of the 19th and 20th centuries. So far I have > >recorded them as they appear on the original document, whether census or > >BMD. For example I now have entries for both "Greenwich, Kent" and > >"Greenwich, London". But these are the same place - I should know because > >it's my local area. In some cases they refer to the same physical house, > >at the same number and road. > > > >It gets worse when dealing with 19th century locations like "London, > >Middlesex", which could be almost anywhere in north London now. > > > >Is there any standard approach to take with these so I don't end up > >getting totally confused? > > > >My current thoughts are to somehow combine them as, for example > >"Greenwich, London (Kent until whenever)" > > > >My brain hurts! > > > >Rgemini > >(Roy Ayres, Eltham, UK) > > Legacy User Group Etiquette guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup%40mail.millenniacorp.com/ > > To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Rich in LA > Legacy User Group Etiquette guidelines can be found at: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup%40mail.millenniacorp.com/ > > To unsubscribe please visit: > http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group Etiquette guidelines can be found at: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp To find past messages, please go to our searchable archives at: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup%40mail.millenniacorp.com/ To unsubscribe please visit: http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp
